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Azurescens wood?
    #1058779 - 11/16/02 07:15 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

i have access to an almost endless supply of hard maple, mahogany, and walnut lathe shavings. will these work for Azurescens?

ps- Anno, whats your dog food agar recipe?


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: ellisdee625]
    #1059763 - 11/17/02 08:12 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

It depends really. I was always under the impression that azures like fresh wood chips because there is still a relatively easy source of sugar and nitrogen in this material which is very helpful for initial colonization. I think shaving, because they are largely from cured and dried lumber would have less of what azures like. Another problem is that shavings do not create an adequate physical environment for out door patches. The shavings might be better suited for indoor culture supplemented with additional nutrients. 2 cents.


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: ellisdee625]
    #1059905 - 11/17/02 10:50 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

My 1/2 cent;
They will colonize aspen wood shavings, likely the other woods you described. If all you have are lathe shavings, you still will want to look for a source of bigger chips. Even if it's just for the top few inches, shavings by themselves don't seem to be a good surface for fruiting. But for amping up mycelium, they work very well.

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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: Suntzu]
    #1060204 - 11/17/02 03:00 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

thanks guys. i'll spawn the shavings to see how they take. maybe i will have enough for next years azure patch.


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: ellisdee625]
    #1061247 - 11/17/02 11:27 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

As I understand it Alder is really the best. Also it's pretty important that the wood "chips", not shavings, are fresh.


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: ellisdee625]
    #1061562 - 11/18/02 01:55 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

>ps- Anno, whats your dog food agar recipe?

For 20 dishes:
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20 g finely ground dry dog or cat food
Sterilized for 30 minutes in a pressure cooker.


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: Anno]
    #1065155 - 11/19/02 02:54 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

azures are quick on beech and hickory


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1066919 - 11/19/02 04:31 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Quick isn't always best. Azurescens will run fast through sawdust but will not fruit as well as they wood on slower colonising wood chips.

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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: Joshua]
    #1066964 - 11/19/02 04:50 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

True, but understanding the nature of woodlovers and the requirement for chips or even larger pieces as a platform for primordia i wouldnt try sawdust other than for spawning.


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: ellisdee625]
    #1067212 - 11/19/02 06:24 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

thanks all, this is a really helpful conversation. when should one start azure patches for next year?


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: ellisdee625]
    #1068266 - 11/19/02 11:35 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

n e one had luck using cottonwood/poplar?

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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: YouInfoIt]
    #1079197 - 11/23/02 11:20 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Those are very closely related to Aspen, so if it works with Aspen....(?)


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Re: Azurescens wood? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1081129 - 11/24/02 03:43 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

if you want the perfect size woodchips make them yourself. Thats what I did. I took an freshly cut down piece of maple and chipped away at it with an axe. you can bag about a garbage bag full in 50 minutes if your strong like me  :wink: my friend could only handle chopping for like 10 minutes but hes a wuss .

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