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    #10591820 - 06/29/09 11:13 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #10591847 - 06/29/09 11:19 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I do mini-monos, and I'd say you've got the right idea.
Those first few fruits are the entire first flush, as far as the mycelium is concerned. Pick it and proceed. Dunk as needed.

If it's a multispore grow, you may have different growth rates in one tub, which can lead to a semi-continuous little dribble of mushrooms instead of an actual flush. That's not too bad either, just pick whatever is ready every few days.


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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #10591856 - 06/29/09 11:21 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

In addition to moisture loss, substrates naturally shrink because the mycelium eats it.  Fresh air exchange and high humidity are major pinning triggers.  If you failed to remove the polyfill from the holes and mist daily, that explains the poor first flush, since you didn't get the fresh air you need.  They side pin because that's where the high humidity is.
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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #10591923 - 06/29/09 11:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #10592016 - 06/29/09 11:56 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I agree that your FAE rather than a massive flush of fruit bodies dried out and shrunk your monotub substrate.

I just did a monotub with a huge 1st flush and I was amazed how much the substrate shrunk.

Hefting your monotub is also very informative.  My tub became noticably lighter in weight after that 1st big flush.  If I remember correctly, water is 8 lbs per gallon. My first flush was an amazing 2,205 wet grams ... just under 5 lbs .... the water content of those fruits was just over half a gallon.  Then add the substrate's water loss from FAE .... you can really feel the weight loss when you heft your tub.

We have dunked the shrunken monotub substrate blocks and fruited their successive flushes in a shotgun FC.



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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #10592023 - 06/29/09 11:57 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You can fill the gap with dry verm and then moisten it many times you'll end up with quite a parameter of fruiting exactly form the reasons stated by RR (high moisture). The reason for the dry verm is it fills the gap completely and doesn't clump like wet verm would. GL


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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10592036 - 06/29/09 12:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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In addition to moisture loss, substrates naturally shrink because the mycelium eats it.
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Does the mycelium also just draw it all together into a denser block? Over a series of flushes, the substrate gets used up of course- but I'm talking about shrinkage before the first flush. I've seen it be pretty dramatic.

Edit- hyphae, you mean just pour verm down between the bulk sub and the side of the tub? Then the fruits come out on top, or what?


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    #10592153 - 06/29/09 12:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'm ed me thus far.

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    #10593229 - 06/29/09 04:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

welub?

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Re: shrunken monotub question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #10593591 - 06/29/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Edit- hyphae, you mean just pour verm down between the bulk sub and the side of the tub? Then the fruits come out on top, or what?




Yes in between the sub and container kept very moist pins can form abundantly along the parameter of the container where moisture is highest. It also stops side pinning which is the main reason to fill this void.


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