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For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS
#1059103 - 11/16/02 10:20 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mandrake 9 (dolphin) has just about got linux to where it needs to be to make it as a desktop OS. Ive just started using it, i often try out a couple distros ever few months or so to see how there comming along as far as ease of use, mandrake 9 is the best distro ive used to date, mixed with KDE 3, its ALMOST as easy to use and configure as windows. Except for the 2 day hastle i got from installing the latest nvidia graphics driver. Dependencys and headers are not something joe enduser should have to worry about just to play games.
I fully recomend giving mandrake 9 a try for anyone looking to "make a switch". Be sure to check if your hardware is compatible first though
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1059300 - 11/16/02 11:42 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1060014 - 11/17/02 12:38 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. I've heard that Mandrake is easier to setup up but lots of folks tell me that Red Hat is a very good distro too. Red Hat (from what I've been told) is a little more "stronger" when it comes to its security settings, but any OS is only as good as its been configured so.....
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1060740 - 11/17/02 07:31 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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mandrake is all good and nice, but i still like my gentoo better
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windex
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: fredthetree]
#1061063 - 11/17/02 10:00 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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gentoo is the next one id like to try out, how similar is the port system (portage?) to the system freebsd comes standard with?
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: windex]
#1065831 - 11/19/02 10:02 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gentoo kicks ass. It is a great distro, but it takes a while to set up.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: New Name]
#1066635 - 11/19/02 03:05 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dual-boot XP Pro and Redhat 8.0. I don't have much use for Redhat as I'm not serving these days (not to mention the GUI is like an 80yo with parkinsons), and mounting an NTFS partition is risky business unless you're doing read-only.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1066684 - 11/19/02 03:17 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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i find linux requires too much user configuration and doesn't take care of itself like windows does. also the amount of pirated software i have for windows is useless on a linux partition so that leaves me using it for webserving and uh irc and gaim. their freebie version of photoshop is nowhere near the quality and filters? good luck finding good ones for gimp. and i hear the generic Office they got is not too hot. as well as driver compatibility and querky little problems you have accessing windows networks.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: Eightball]
#1067520 - 11/19/02 08:11 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I find it more customizable than other OSs...
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: Eightball]
#1067710 - 11/19/02 08:49 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Linux distros may very well require more configuration ... but as far as 'taking care of itself' ... linux is alot better than windows. Taking Care of Windows is the technological equivalent of a newborn baby with many feedings and changings and constant care. And lots of rest (reboots). I tend many linux servers that do extraordinary amounts of tasks, serving email and web, that only get rebooted once a year. Maybe once a year. We generally don't even mess with them except for running backups.
They have no GUI tho, I think that screws them up more than anything.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: BuzzDoctor]
#1068140 - 11/19/02 10:49 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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As far as linux "taking care of itself" I have been running one install that has gone through 3 computers for over 2 years with absolutely no signs of instability or slowdown. I would love to see windows do that. I also use openoffice and have found that it is much more stable and useable than office xp. The only reason I don't use linux all the time is that I can't play counter-strike (well i can it just doesn't run well). As soon as they make that work well I will say good bye to my windows partition. And btw NTFS freaking blows. I have spent many nights trying to fix broken NTFS partitions for friends because they become corrupted frequently.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: Eightball]
#1069090 - 11/20/02 08:17 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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The difference in user friendliness and functionality is very small if you compare the prices. How much is WinXP+Microsoft Office? And for those who use pirate software - I heard somewhere that windows collect and send info about licenses and etc.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: zeronio]
#1075550 - 11/22/02 12:20 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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im back on a sweetly configured gentoo box, i think im going to stop here though... no need to go back to windows, other then games, but most of the new games are being designed for both snes9x runs secret of evermore real well so i can reasonably assume other roms will work as well, sound is a bit off but i had the same problem with windows.
For the gentoo users who use KDE, how long did compileing X and KDE take and what are the specs on the system? Gentoo may take a long while to setup, but i really like the idea of the OS and all the software being compiled and optimized specificly for my system.
wish i could play ghost recon though =( i should prolly go ahead and try installing winex, according to the website it should work...
PS: Be sure to play glTron =) an amazingly great timekiller
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: windex]
#1081243 - 11/24/02 06:12 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I usually recomple only kernel. Startup is much faster if you remove stuff you don't need (like SCSI support) from it.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: zeronio]
#1171111 - 12/26/02 08:01 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Windows is much better than linux for a desktop os. Unix is a server os, and to make it desktop is just stupid. And linux just plain sucks, its kernel is a joke. Install windows.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: tak_old]
#1178720 - 12/30/02 03:00 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: tak_old]
#1178789 - 12/30/02 03:32 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Windows is much better than linux for a desktop os. Unix is a server os, and to make it desktop is just stupid.
Linux was never meant to be only a server OS. I'm aware that it's not perfect, but the stuff majority of people need (OS, office, web browser, playing CD's, DVD's & MP3's) are at least as good as on windows if not better. All this stuff costs at least 1000$ for windows and 0$ for linux.
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And linux just plain sucks, its kernel is a joke.
I don't know what you mean by that. I can at least see how linux kernel is made, while I have no idea what shit win32 kernel contains. And don't forget that many people still use DOS based win95, 98 & ME which are not a joke - they're a tragedy!
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Install windows.
I'm using both, since I'm developing portable software, but there are not many reasons left for using windows.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: zeronio]
#1180948 - 12/31/02 12:53 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've just made the 'big' transition from Mac OS 9 to OS X (Jaguar). i can honestly say its the best OS i've ever used. it hasn't crashed or had any problem yet, classic seems to work fine.
any other OS X or OS 9 users here? OS X seems to me like the best introduction to Unix. You don't need to bother with it on OS X at all, but you can do. What are the UNIX peoples take on OS X?
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: mikey_]
#1181177 - 12/31/02 04:53 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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osx is freebsd on a mac =]
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1182207 - 12/31/02 07:01 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Installing linux from a mainstream version, like Redhat or Mandrake is easy, just as easy as Windows XP imo. I dont know what yall are talking about though. Linux is just as good as windows for everyday computer tasks. The only things wrong with it imo, is theres no Photoshop, and any directX based games wont work unless you use wine. Which is a hastle in itself.
If your into security, or programming then you'll want Linux. Its all open-source, even the Kernel. 10 years ago linux might of been crappy as hell, but now, Id take it over windows any day.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: BuzzDoctor]
#1182208 - 12/31/02 07:04 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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They have no GUI tho, I think that screws them up more than anything.
What about KDE or Gnome???
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1186192 - 01/03/03 12:05 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: Fina]
#1186796 - 01/03/03 05:54 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found Mandrake 9 easier to install than win2k. Windows install takes longer too; i have to hunt around for drivers, and boot up in VGA to install my grfx card drivers etc. I find that KDE3 runs quite slow on my machine though (500MHz) so i tend to stick to win2k for desktop stuff.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: MetaShroom]
#1190321 - 01/04/03 12:41 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone mentioned Lindows . It is linux and can run all linux based apps but can also run a small amount (and growing) number of windows based apps. And as for desktop OS read the page but here are some screen shots.
LindowsOS desktop after installation.
LindowsOS with built-in Netscape 7.0 Web Browser.
LindowsOS can now connect to Microsoft Windows machines over the network
LindowsOSTM 3.0 is a new operating system that delivers the power, stability and cost-savings of Linux? with the ease of windows. LindowsOS brings a new choice to desktop computing because it is?
A "Broadband OS"
Designed from the beginning to optimize the future world of high-speed Internet connectivity Connects users seamlessly to applications software via LindowsOS Click-N-Run technology Expandable to seamlessly support future computing devices via digitally delivered drivers Stable, at its core, running on efficient and stable Linux technology Affordable
Only $129 for the OS and hundreds of software titles for home, business, and education ONE year membership of Click-N-Run Warehouse StarOffice and other top programs are included at no extra charge Family licensing allows you to use on multiple computers vs. old way of one license per machine Easy-to-Experience
Comfortable, easy-to-use interface using windows, mouse, keyboard shortcuts, cut-n-paste, etc. Compatible with files and data from older operating systems and applications (.doc, .xls, .ppt, .mp3, etc.) Over a thousand quality software titles can be added with just one click of the mouse Easy to install in under 5 minutes or purchased pre-installed on a LindowsOS Certified Computer The entire system operates as a whole, making it easy to install, use, update, and add new software via Click-N-Run
Which specific MS Windows compatible programs can WINE run?
Currently, there are only a handful of MS Windows compatible programs that WINE has been successful in running reliably. LindowsOS gained notoriety for having invested heavily into WINE when we first started and making LindowsOS the first non-MS Windows operating system that could install and somewhat run Microsoft Office 2000. (WINE does not currently work with other versions of Office, such as Office XP.)
Over time, it's possible that more programs could eventually be supported using WINE, but for now there are very few MS Windows compatible programs that the average, non-technical user can reliably use for day-to-day productivity.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: mntlfngrs]
#1191632 - 01/05/03 04:00 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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It looks just like any other Linux distribution.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: tak_old]
#1194511 - 01/06/03 02:35 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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true, windows is way better. its not like linux can do the same tasks while using less system resources or anything like that!!! and its not like linux is free or anything...
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
#1196484 - 01/07/03 12:55 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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In my opinion, Windows is a great operating system if you're not into computers and only want to use them for surfing, playing games, writing and stuff like that. On the other hand, if you like to fiddle and tweak with your computer, Windows is pure shit and Linux kicks it's ass by far.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: zeronio]
#1202112 - 01/08/03 07:02 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit they all look like that now? OK,it has been a while since I had a linux disp installed.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: mntlfngrs]
#1202150 - 01/08/03 07:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Similar not exactly the same. Lindows is supposed to be simplified linux with good support. The price you pay is for support not for the software. Software should be free.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
#1202163 - 01/08/03 07:26 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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and its not like linux is free or anything...
GNU/Linux is free. Well I never paid for Windows too, but installing them made me a criminal.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: zeronio]
#1202839 - 01/09/03 02:20 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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GNU/Linux is free. Well I never paid for Windows too, but installing them made me a criminal.
Very well said, I remember when the government could only make people criminals, now Microsoft can make their own laws specifically against those who liberate software 
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
#1213387 - 01/13/03 03:32 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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FreeBSD, no GUI, just another machine, a nic, and SSH.
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: bjkroll]
#1230218 - 01/19/03 01:15 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive used both quite a bit and the only prob Linux has is that it lacks in hardware compatabillity, linux is way more customizable and i would still used it if it supported my modem
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: tak_old]
#1233099 - 01/20/03 05:39 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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dude, you can't even have virtual desktops on windows...i don't play games so don't have much need for a wintendo partition...however, i do use windows under linux using win4lin 4.0(no directx or usb support)...been using it since 3.0. it lets me run office, photoshop(although i prefer gimp), winmx, etc. all under linux. there is a formidable learning curve for config'n everything but it's all worth it when your machine has dual os power. windows doesn't have dctc(hard core file leeching(sharing) app, mplayer, galeon, and blackbox. oh yeah, i got an old patched up version of blackbox running on slackware 8.1...iz groovy
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop OS [Re: windex]
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: tak_old]
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Re: For anyone looking to try linux as a desktop O [Re: Barbi]
#1287131 - 02/07/03 12:32 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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alot of this thread makes me laugh.
linux is good, unix is good.
windows is good
all of them are good , so long as you arent a total idiot and can keep your system configured properly.
i ran freebsd , using blackbox. it ran great, was easy to install, but had none of the gaming suport i needed. so i went back to windows.
if you want to turn on your computer and point and click through evernyhing like a mindless zombie, it isnt going to happen on nix. it takes a little bit of patince and learning to beable to do even simple things on linux and unix. but once you get it all going and know the basics, its wonderfull.
but its still my opinion that one isnt any better than the other. it all depends on the person, the computers hardware, and how much time you want to actuly stick into setting up and maintaning a stable and easy to use computer, including OS.
none of my computers crash anymore, you know, ive had more crashes with windows me and 98 than with anything else. but now that i know what the hell im doing, nothing crashes anymore.
the BIG thing about a computers stability , CAN be the hardware itself. dont buy sheap parts, and you will have less problems. take time to read some instructions, and you will have less problems.
if your going to own a computer, learn how to use it correctly. again, you will have less problems.

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