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A true shaman would just do their thing without any need for recognition.

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Did you read "the book to being a true shaman"? 

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MushroomTrip said:

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A true shaman would just do their thing without any need for recognition.

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Did you read "the book to being a true shaman"? 

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Well hey, medical doctors are renowned for being capable of healing and solving health problems for all sorts of people, and its not like they need to self-identify as a doctor. Its a title they never use themselves and grudgingly accept that usage by others.

I mean, you know how it is, you're walking down the street, and the community can always tell the true doctors from the false ones.

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MushroomTrip said:

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A true shaman would just do their thing without any need for recognition.

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Did you read "the book to being a true shaman"? 

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MushroomTrip said:
No, you were avoiding answering my question by saying that you don't need books in order to be sure of something, and that you learned to think for yourself, a statement which is isn't only flawed and stupid in itself, but even more so when you consider that you were attempting to avoid explaining HOW you reached a certain conclusion.
Personally, I could never say that I don't need books in order to know something, and it would be completely stupid of me to think that, only because I read books, I can't have personal opinions or think for myself. In fact, gathering all kinds of knowledge, data, and differing opinions is what raises my level of consciousness and what makes me step out of the pathetic crap called self-importance, where I would foolishly think that I don't need books and information in order to know stuff. Actually, I think that one must think very low of themselves in order to believe that reading a book would jeopardize their ability to think for themselves.

Just to make sure you won't be confused anymore, it was my initial question that was ridiculing your statement, and it had the intention of asking you how the fuck did you reach such an idiotic conclusion, and based on what?

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Would you care to explain how you came up with this idiotic conclusion?

Is there some book that you read that can somehow prove that my statement is incorrect? At this point you can either site your reference or admit your hypocrisy.

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Could it be that being so overly-emotional has completely clouded your reasoning and understanding, because only you know what the fuck you're talking about in here?
Why exactly would I need to quote a book that disagrees with your statement, or, if not, admit my "hypocrisy"?
You have made a statement which IMO is completely ridiculous, and I called you on it, several times, with no success because each time you managed to avoid answering how does your statement makes sense. You're the one that make a claim you're supposed to back it up.

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and even if you could find a book that disagrees with me it would not prove that I am wrong. All information contained in books start inside someone's mind.

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MushroomTrip said:

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A true shaman would just do their thing without any need for recognition.

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Did you read "the book to being a true shaman"? 

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Well hey, medical doctors are renowned for being capable of healing and solving health problems for all sorts of people, and its not like they need to self-identify as a doctor. Its a title they never use themselves and grudgingly accept that usage by others.

I mean, you know how it is, you're walking down the street, and the community can always tell the true doctors from the false ones.

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MushroomTrip said:

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zen buddy said:
Would you care to explain how you came up with this idiotic conclusion?

Is there some book that you read that can somehow prove that my statement is incorrect? At this point you can either site your reference or admit your hypocrisy.

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Could it be that being so overly-emotional has completely clouded your reasoning and understanding, because only you know what the fuck you're talking about in here?
Why exactly would I need to quote a book that disagrees with your statement, or, if not, admit my "hypocrisy"?
You have made a statement which IMO is completely ridiculous, and I called you on it, several times, with no success because each time you managed to avoid answering how does your statement makes sense. You're the one that make a claim you're supposed to back it up.

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and even if you could find a book that disagrees with me it would not prove that I am wrong. All information contained in books start inside someone's mind.

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Again: I am not trying to prove that your statement is wrong, I am asking you to explain how it is valid. Namely, why should one wait for others to call him shaman, and not proclaim himself as being one? Moreover, on what do you base your understanding of a "real shaman"?

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MushroomTrip said:
So, let's review: I am looking for starting fights, when you're the one that says:

"Are you the Queen mother of the shroomery who never has to explain herself?"

"Either prove your point or shut up."

"Argue the point and avoid the insults or try to admit that your contributions to this forum are more of a disruption than anything else."

How stupid is that?
Also, how hard is it to explain your point already, along with some consistent evidence that shamans do actually exist.
I am not going to take to consideration your menopausal woman comments, and I will consider that you just can't bring any insight into the matter, if next time you will avoid answering my initial question.

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