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Shpongled247
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Dunking cakes for casing?
#10581283 - 06/27/09 11:38 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm doing the casing method and wondering if i should dunk my cakes after birthing before i crumble them into my trays. Also, how big of a tray should i use for 2 1/2 Pint cakes?
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hyphae
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I'd dunk they shrink during there colonizing replenish the water lost and you'll be golden. As far as a tray those in my pinning strategy worked great and those were two half pint casings.
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my advice to you is dont bother crumbling and casing. if you are going to crumble then crumble and use as spawn. you are just prolonging fruiting when you crumble and wasting energy when the myc has to repair. just fruit them as cakes. or spawn to bulk.
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hyphae
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Re: Dunking cakes for casing? [Re: prismism]
#10581781 - 06/27/09 02:09 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I find it good practice for those who have done cakes and want to experiment with casings. Getting their feet wet ya know before doing bulk. It also cuts the boredom down and yields are usually increased when crumbling and casing somewhat. Were not here always to advise sometimes we just give a little direction and let them do their thing.
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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
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Gas Exchange vs. FAE
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Shpongled247
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Re: Dunking cakes for casing? [Re: hyphae]
#10581818 - 06/27/09 02:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright. Yeah, i am a noobie but I'm following everything to the T. I'm going to start it as soon as my spores get here(should be soon). Thanks
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Call Me Muffin
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Edited by Call Me Muffin (08/31/09 02:38 AM)
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hyphae
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Call Me Muffin said: Yes, if you're going to case, don't use cakes.
I did this once and it was quite underwhelming. You'll end up with more surface area for pins with cakes.
Ah not necessarily! I've done side by sides cakes came up short in my case everyones situation is different though as are substrains. This is only really a stepping stone if one wants to try out casings especially if they have a lot of cakes incubating. It can give valuable insight to timing your pinsets on a smaller scale. If anyone feels like they'd like to try it go ahead nobodies going to think any less of you for trying. A flat horizontal surface can hold water better than a vertical surface that is just one benefit you can expect. And don't misread me this in no way replaces casing bulk grains or the such it's just some people would rather take smaller steps the choice is theirs nobody elses.
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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Edited by Call Me Muffin (08/31/09 02:38 AM)
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hyphae
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Call Me Muffin said:
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hyphae said: Ah not necessarily! I've done side by sides cakes came up short in my case everyones situation is different though as are substrains. This is only really a stepping stone if one wants to try out casings especially if they have a lot of cakes incubating. It can give valuable insight to timing your pinsets on a smaller scale. If anyone feels like they'd like to try it go ahead nobodies going to think any less of you for trying. A flat horizontal surface can hold water better than a vertical surface that is just one benefit you can expect. And don't misread me this in no way replaces casing bulk grains or the such it's just some people would rather take smaller steps the choice is theirs nobody elses.
Sorry, didn't mean to spread misinformation. Yeah, Shpongled247 go for it if you'd like to see what its like. But I wouldn't count on more mushrooms, also you're going to have to wait a lot longer.
When I did it, the mycelium was not coming through the casing layer, and I thought it was screwed. It took an extra two weeks, if I remember correctly. Also, you're giving extra opportunity for contamination. Also, seems hard to get more than one flush with casings when you're inexperienced.
*E: It'll likely work for you. I just really wish someone would have told me that it wasn't worth it before I did it.
It may have took longer for several reasons after placing the casing layer did you cover it with saran loosely and place it back in the incubator for a couple three days rather than placing it in the FC right away? Contams should not do much in a nutrient poor casing mix that's something to get over now before one moves on to real casings. Like I said it gets your feet wet so your not quite as "inexperienced" as you once were. And as far as being worth it experience is sometimes worth a whole lot more than yields as yields will come with experience ya know what I'm saying? Think outside the box and keep an open mind as closed mind will never grow. GL
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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Edited by Call Me Muffin (08/31/09 02:38 AM)
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hyphae
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Good answer!
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Shpongled247
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Re: Dunking cakes for casing? [Re: hyphae]
#10587300 - 06/28/09 04:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah. Me and my roomie decided to just stick with cakes. we figure we have a long time to advance but we might as well start with easy. if we were going for easy, we would've bought pre-sterilized jars and whatnot, or bought a grow kit. but instead we decided to do it by the books and get everything separately and be in it for the EXPERIENCE rather than the quick & easy.
We've been picking field shrooms for awhile and having a GREAT time cuz our geographical location is clutch for dank. Time to try cultivating.
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