|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
ThisIsPathetic
Tech Support


Registered: 06/11/09
Posts: 205
Last seen: 4 years, 19 days
|
Dunk and roll questions and concerns...
#10579811 - 06/26/09 11:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
OK everyone, So I'm dunking and rolling between my flushes.
So far, i haven't gotten a fruit after one flush (after dunking) But its still kinda early to tell...But that's not really my issue...Just a couple a questions.
After i dunked some cakes, they turned a little blue...i AM dunking in ice water for 12-24 hours...(ice water for contaminants will stay away...or so I've read) And when they come out they LOOK fine...minus the blue bruises on the cakes (blue bruises after only one flush? is that right?) But they are also REALLY squishy...Even before i dunk and roll them they seem a little squishy, but coming out of the water they seem extra squishy, and REALLY REALLY fragile...like i broke the top corner off one of my cakes 
Can anyone tell me if this is normal? For them turning blue to early...and being really squishy and fragile? or am i doing something wrong? Help is much appreciated, for i have about 60 BRF jars about to come out of their jars next week to be dunked and everything...
Thanks for the help everyone
-------------------- Now that's what I call cubes
R A I N B O W W A R R I O R
|
Premedman1
Assistant to the insistent



Registered: 12/21/05
Posts: 2,376
Loc: South of Sanity
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10579895 - 06/27/09 12:12 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Do not dunk in ice water.
I would like to beat the person/people who started this cold shock and/or ice water fallacy in regards to cubensis.
Dunk your cakes in room temperature water, and if they are already saturated, no dunk is necessary.
-------------------- Build a man a fire, he is warm for the night. Set a man on fire, he is warm for the rest of his life.
|
ThisIsPathetic
Tech Support


Registered: 06/11/09
Posts: 205
Last seen: 4 years, 19 days
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: Premedman1]
#10579942 - 06/27/09 12:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
So does that mean that if they are already squishy i shouldn't dunk them? Or what about the Blue on them? Thanks for the tip tho!
-------------------- Now that's what I call cubes
R A I N B O W W A R R I O R
|
stonesun
Sclerotia Aficionado




Registered: 05/22/09
Posts: 5,444
Loc: 64º08'00"N 21º56'00"W
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10580575 - 06/27/09 05:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Dunk and roll them after every flush. If they haven't produced any fruit, and it seems like they have a good water content, leave them alone. The blue on them is heavy bruising from the freezing temperatures. Do not dunk in ice water!!!
|
veda_sticks
Cultivator




Registered: 07/29/07
Posts: 14,191
Loc: UK
Last seen: 5 years, 13 days
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: stonesun]
#10580604 - 06/27/09 06:26 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
dunking in cold water on slows things down. It delays pinning byt a day or 2. But thats in a fridge dunk so using ice water is probably much colder.
Not sure why your cakes as squishy. You havnt been sitting your cakes directly on the perlite have you?
--------------------
PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
|
prismism



Registered: 05/11/09
Posts: 5,570
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10580905 - 06/27/09 09:05 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
how much verm/brf did you use in your substrate?
-------------------- ephemeral anomalous
|
hyphae
born to grow



Registered: 12/13/02
Posts: 6,228
Loc: the rain forests
Last seen: 13 years, 8 months
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: veda_sticks]
#10580952 - 06/27/09 09:20 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
veda_sticks said: dunking in cold water on slows things down. It delays pinning byt a day or 2. But thats in a fridge dunk so using ice water is probably much colder.
Not sure why your cakes as squishy. You havnt been sitting your cakes directly on the perlite have you?
True and the ice water is why they blued. And a great question if they were sitting directly on perlite they will absorb a lot of water. Fridge dunking is of no real benefit and definitely slows things down. What it does do is speed up the transition between vegetative growth and generative growth somewhat simply because it slows down vegetative growth.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
|
dieselkush
Stranger


Registered: 02/02/09
Posts: 582
Last seen: 15 years, 4 months
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10581156 - 06/27/09 10:44 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Dunking in the fringe inhibits contams from taking over the cakes while being dunked. apposed to dunking in room temp water and having a higher chance of contamination. for me if your in a house that has dust and microbes flying every where its a real benifit. but yea, ice water is a bit much.
|
prismism



Registered: 05/11/09
Posts: 5,570
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: dieselkush]
#10581180 - 06/27/09 10:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
dieselkush said: Dunking in the fringe inhibits contams from taking over the cakes while being dunked. apposed to dunking in room temp water and having a higher chance of contamination. for me if your in a house that has dust and microbes flying every where its a real benifit. but yea, ice water is a bit much.
contams arent going to "take over" your fully colonized cake while being dunked. regardless of the temperature of the water. tap water works even better than spring water because it actually contains beneficial amounts of chlorine that will keep the bad stuff out.
i mean maybe JUST maybe if you were to dunk your cakes in HOT SEWAGE water for a few days your cake would contaminate. maybe.
-------------------- ephemeral anomalous
|
george castanza
Lord Of The Idiots!

Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 8,777
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10581185 - 06/27/09 10:54 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Squishy/fragile cakes is usually a sign of some type of contamination beating up on your myc. Healthy cakes are somewhat firm to the touch.
-------------------- KRAMER CAKES


|
Lostkeys
Fractal Thought Pattern



Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1,355
Loc: Sirius
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: george castanza]
#10581206 - 06/27/09 11:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
As am I.
-------------------- So heavy I fell through the earth...

|
ThisIsPathetic
Tech Support


Registered: 06/11/09
Posts: 205
Last seen: 4 years, 19 days
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10581227 - 06/27/09 11:13 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Thanks for the responses
my cakes seemed blue BEFORE the dunk and roll, and even more blue after (which i guess makes sense to what you have all said) I'll make sure i start using room temp. water
and as for the verm/brf i used 2 part verm. 1 part brf 1 part water
-------------------- Now that's what I call cubes
R A I N B O W W A R R I O R
|
kinderfeld11
kill your master


Registered: 12/13/08
Posts: 315
Last seen: 15 years, 5 months
|
Re: Dunk and roll questions and concerns... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
#10581265 - 06/27/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I like firm cakes.
-------------------- Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard.
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come.
(Julius Caesar, Act II, Scene 2).
Host of new 'Kinderfeld's Kindness' monthly contest.
|
|