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    #10578679 - 06/26/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10592855 - 06/29/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

...so this is what happens in this forum. :rolleyes:


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    #10592894 - 06/29/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10592929 - 06/29/09 03:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you familiar with the fact that the US is firing a bomb into the moon on Oct 9?




I keep fairly up to date on space sciences and the newest missions, but it sounds like you have astounding access to privileged information. 

Bomb?  Do you happen to mean this:  http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090623-lcross-flyby.html?

Impacting a probe to simulate a meteorite strike to gain valuable data?  Why would they need a bomb?  The amount of kinetic energy that thing will have will be far beyond what conventional explosives might yield.

I daresay you make it sound like something sinister is going on.  :rolleyes:


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    #10592932 - 06/29/09 03:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10592933 - 06/29/09 03:14 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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6 mile high fucking dustcloud




And this is problematic to you because...?


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Invisibledr_gonz
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    #10592958 - 06/29/09 03:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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    #10592959 - 06/29/09 03:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10592986 - 06/29/09 03:26 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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THERE IS NO REASON TO BOMB THE MOON







Once again, 'bomb' is a misrepresentation of the function of the impacter probe.  To continue this misrepresentation could be considered by some to be lying, and it doesn't do well for one's credibility to lie.

That aside, there are many reasons to 'bomb' the moon.  It gives an opportunity to study crater formation, and may give new insight to the moon's history, and by extension, Earth's.

Now, could you please explain to me why your personal emotional bias is a sufficient reason to retard the growth of scientific knowledge?  Perhaps your deep insight and profound knowledge of crater formation could spare us the need to send a probe?


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    #10593018 - 06/29/09 03:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10593072 - 06/29/09 03:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There, there.  Don't feel too bad.

Please, I'd really like to know why you feel this mission is such a needless and perhaps even malevolent act.  What is your line of reasoning?  You are obviously quite passionate about your perspective, and likewise, I and mine.

So please, unambiguously, why is this such a bad thing?


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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: Minstrel]
    #10593085 - 06/29/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I say we nuke Imaginationland next.


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    #10593905 - 06/29/09 06:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: Minstrel]
    #10593999 - 06/29/09 07:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Minstrel said:
'bomb' is a misrepresentation of the function of the impacter probe.



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The amount of kinetic energy that thing will have will be far beyond what conventional explosives might yield.



2 tons + 5,600 mph (from the info I got)

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Perhaps your deep insight and profound knowledge of crater formation could spare us the need to send a probe?



I'm curious what the need  is..


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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10594017 - 06/29/09 07:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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My question is simple. Where does it end ?




When the payload strikes the surface. Observations will be made for probably a long time after by a sister probe.


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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: abysmal]
    #10594040 - 06/29/09 07:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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abysmal said:
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Minstrel said:

The amount of kinetic energy that thing will have will be far beyond what conventional explosives might yield.



2 tons + 5,600 mph (from the info I got)




Just because it's gonna make a big boom doesn't make it a bomb.  It's basically just a guided meteor. 

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Perhaps your deep insight and profound knowledge of crater formation could spare us the need to send a probe?



I'm curious what the need  is..




See the surface of the moon?  All those craters?  Each one is a bit of data which gives us a greater depth of knowledge into the early life of the solar system.  To put it all into frame, we need a 'standard' meteor to make a 'standard' crater.  Provide a baseline for model-building and scale-up.


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    #10594050 - 06/29/09 07:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10594072 - 06/29/09 07:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

We need to study the moon for the same reason we need to make music or movies - its fun.

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    #10594086 - 06/29/09 07:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: NASA Ames Rocket Crashes into to the Moon and the unexepected happens [Re: dr_gonz]
    #10594097 - 06/29/09 07:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

is anyone aware that I think India has already done this very experiment once on a smaller scale?  The purpose of it is to gather data about what the moons crust below the immediate surface consists of, and specifically whether or not there is any water ice there.  Because if there is, and perhaps other useful substances as well, the developers will soon be bulldozing up there and building hotels and shopping malls.

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