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Offlinehyper_dermic
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green with caseings? is it dangerous?
    #1057683 - 11/16/02 07:17 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Ok, so ive only tried 3 caseings so far, one caseing with i 2 1/2 pint brf cakes in coir/verm, and two caseings with 1 1/2 pint cakes again coir and verm....

the 2 cake caseing pinned just fine, and produced a nice sized flush, so i harvested all at once, put down a small layer of caseing material, and put it back in the incubator (i know i should have put it back in the terrarium) i opened it in a day or 2 to find some small scraggly lookin shrooms poppin out form the caseing layer... i tossed it in the terrarium... a few days later i notice green in the caseing layer...
how do you keep your caseings from getting infected after flushes? i tried my best to be clean... but i have to harvest in open air... Grrr.....

and, one of the 1 cake caseings got infected with green about 1-2 days before pinning... i tossed the whole thing, but i probably could have dug out the green parts and salvaged the caseing.... the green didnt run too deep... it wasnt all over the place maybe an area smaller than a dime.....

has anyone verified that green mold is toxic? i know if left to grow it will kick the shit out of mycellum, but if you eat a mushroom from an infected caseing, will it really affect your health? if its just commen bread mold, then its not toxic at all....
just wondering......

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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1057692 - 11/16/02 07:21 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

i ate a piece of cheese with the green on it once and didn't die, it just tasted gross. So i'm assuming it's toxic but not reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaal toxic.


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: Zildjian]
    #1057696 - 11/16/02 07:24 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

yea thats what i figured, its not like im gonna eat a green mushroom, but if the green was growing on the same cake or caseing as the mushroom i dont see a big problem.... espically if i catch the green early, before it has the chance to take over the fuckin caseing/cake

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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1057706 - 11/16/02 07:33 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I have never been able to beat the green once it is there no matter how small. That stuff is amazing. I think when you see it on top of casing it has the inside infected. Don't think I would eat anything that came from that casing either. Not worth the chance of getting sick. If you are using coco coir, try a little lime in it, worked wonders for me. Always got infected before I tried the lime.


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1057711 - 11/16/02 07:36 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

You need to identify which green mold your casing is infected with.
Trichoderma, "The Forest Green Mold" is completely harmless to humans.
Penicillum, a lighter green mold is also completely harmless to humans.
Aspergillus, which is completely identical to penicillum (unless you have a microscope), has some harmless varieties and some extremely harmful varieties.



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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1057726 - 11/16/02 07:59 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

>if its just commen bread mold, then its not toxic at all....

What is "common bread mold" to you?


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1057768 - 11/16/02 09:35 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

bleach dunk that bad boy. Mix up a 1:100 solution of bleach:water and dunk the whole casing in it for about 5 min. It will kill all mold except the majic stuff. I ususlly pull the casing out of the container, clean out the container with bleach then put the casing back in and bleach dunk(with 1:100 mixture)then pour out the bleach mixture pull the casing re clean the container and put the casing back in(or leave it out for that matter) and back in the terr. Should pin in a week or two.
Gettin ready to do this in about an hour or so after picking the rest of my +100g fresh flush.
oh yea cut any infected areas out first.


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: Anno]
    #1058545 - 11/16/02 07:00 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Um the green stuff :P

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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: zeta]
    #1058563 - 11/16/02 07:11 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

"Trichoderma, "The Forest Green Mold" is completely harmless to humans.
Penicillum, a lighter green mold is also completely harmless to humans.
Aspergillus, which is completely identical to penicillum (unless you have a microscope), has some harmless varieties and some extremely harmful varieties."


I heard 90% of the time its trich. isnt penicilum the highly valuable mold used for curing rabies and a host of other diseases? if so, and you can get petrii dishes and agar and grow pure colonies of them youll be damn rich. I would not smell or touch any mold for fear of alergies or getting ill.


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1058589 - 11/16/02 07:32 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

I think allot of the time people mistake the bluing of the cake/casings as green mold,
And are quick to chuck it, I know I chucked a couple perfectly good cakes a while back.
If it doesn?t stink don?t throw it away. :grin:
 


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: Shrooms4e]
    #1058649 - 11/16/02 08:08 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

One more reason LSAuser should not be posting in the cult forums.



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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1058771 - 11/16/02 09:05 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Yup. LSAuser, err, I mean Shrooms4e, go call some pharmacutical company and tell them you want to sell them some petris of green. Has anyone seen that southpark were Cartman was trying to sell stem cells........


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: cheifdog24]
    #1058780 - 11/16/02 09:15 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

what do you have against Shrooms4e (or whatever he used to be called)?
This is a sociable public access forum, isn't it?


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: shirley knott]
    #1058786 - 11/16/02 09:17 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

You haven't been here long enough to understand. Just wait and see.


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: cheifdog24]
    #1058792 - 11/16/02 09:20 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

okay.
I am a newbie, and a bit embarassed to post my many questions. Is there a big contingent of resident experts? Are there many (any) in England?


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Re: green with caseings? is it dangerous? [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1058819 - 11/16/02 09:39 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

It is best to completely scrape off the old casing and apply a new layer. I have also notice sometimes the mycelium blueing on top of my casing layer and have been tempted to dump it thinking it was a contam.


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