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the most enlightening experience of my life
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The author had a profound and life-changing experience when they met a wise and charismatic man named Thunderfire at a gathering of friends. Thunderfire, a palm reader with a deep understanding of the universe, read the author's palm and revealed intimate details about their life, including their thoughts and future plans. The author was deeply moved by Thunderfire's wisdom, compassion, and authenticity, which put everyone at ease. Thunderfire discussed various topics, including the importance of living in harmony with nature, the interconnectedness of all humans, and the beauty of life's simple moments. The author felt a sense of wonder and awe in Thunderfire's presence, and they were inspired to re-evaluate their own life and goals. Despite feeling unable to put their experience into words, the author is grateful and hopes to see Thunderfire again at a drum circle in Sedona, where they believe they will be able to share more of his wisdom and guidance.

sorry i myself cannot stand reading long posts, but this is just a very special experience that happened to me tonight that if you feel like reading :smile:

..happened tonight. i don't know where to start.

i hung out with some old friends i haven't hung out with since the first few weeks of college; your typical layed back pot smoking hippies (they are the majority here in Flag). I wanted to get away from the people i've been hanging out with (tweakers.), so when my friend from work mentioned going to their place, i decided to come along.
the scene was basically a hippie kickback with a few kegs with my friends i hadn't seen forever, so i went all twacked, had a nice conversasion with my old kinda guy i was dating, and chilled. All of a sudden, a wise man entered, and read my friends palm. Compationately he told my friend about himself and i requested to be next. About a half hour later we went outside to get some fresh air and have a cigarette and he read my hand.

I could never find the words to express this in the way my mind would like to, but this man's beauty, wisdom, knowledge, and psychic ability was both intriguing and miraculous, and forever my short conversation with him will change some of my views.

He read my hand, the fingers, the lines, the way my hand set, and needless to say he nailed everything, including some extremely personal things that left me dumfounded. He told me how i percieve my future (and yeah, he was 100% correct) and the way my future actually will be. He inspired me to quit what i've been doing simply by looking at my palm. He gave no advice, but the things he said broke me out of my low self esteem and really helped me to feel better about myself.

In the process of him reading my palm, amazed as i was i asked how i could get a hold of him to thank him and hear more of what he had to say.
He was the type that you immediately felt like you had known your whole life and anyone could open up to.
"do you have an email?"
"no"
"how about an adress or telephone number?"
"i spend most of my time in the nature and have never payed a bill in my life. I travel all over the world and visit as many places as possible and been doing so over the past 15 years"
I listen contentedly as he speaks to me and a few others about the beautys, flaws, and hopes for our universe, putting everything as eloquently as one could put it. His enthusiasm, peacefulness, and wisdom was enough to overpower anyone and put anyone at ease with his stellar personality. He had no flaws. He listened, he spoke with truth, and discussed all sorts of things from chakras/auras, to how every human is a gift and completely amazing.

Someone that has the ability to restore faith to even the most insecure, shy person (not me, but he couldve, no doubt) and give light to all that are lost and even those wanting answers, or reasons to the baffling problems most humans face, is someone that is literally, out of this world. He was more than a wise man, he was as some sort of diety or such.

i also could understand so much of what he was saying about living and spending time in teh nature because i myself am a naturualist, and my love and enthusiam for the outdoors is endless. Being out of a structured society and into the natural world where creatures follow their instincts following a healthy ecosystem is a whole lot more than sitting by a fire and sleeping in a tent. I went on a 3 month wilderness course (backpacking thru the canyons, horsepacking in the red desert, rock climbing and kayaking) last year and a few years before that had done a month backpacking course in colorado.

I feel so blessed to have met this wise man/diety who called himself thunderfire. It was so much more than i could ever put in words. He described and explained rainbows and clouds, the whole sky. Love and children, and the miracle of birth and death. I listened with awe (as did everyone else who was around) and couldn't even take in all the truth he spoke. All his experience was gained through traveling and talking to many many people. He discussed along the lines of how all humans are perfect but the minds poison the body sometimes. He talked about how good it was to just smile. You could tell he had probably the same reactions i did from so many others. There was no cheese, no fakeness, just wholesome love and compassion.

I will never forget this.
if you got through this post, thanks for listening to me.
<3
:grin:

and i just read thru this post and realize how meaningless it is to anyone who reads it. if you think its lame i understand because i can't put it into words..i wish to anything i could.

Tomorrow theres a drum circle in the woods in Sedona i might be going to, he said he'd be there. I really hope to see him again.

he knew that i know where i'm going right now and that i didn't need advice. He did tell me what i thought, its just a phase and i'll get out of the rut. He released a lot of anxiety i had concerning what direction i was going in life and told me i'd be fine. :smile: Now him saying that, i strongly feel i'll make it out alive :smile:
   


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

Edited by Jenny (11/16/02 02:44 AM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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That is so cool. Right on. I would love to meet someone like that. Your very lucky to have met someone with so much wisdom. I'm glad he helped you :laugh: :laugh:


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addicted to reason
a hollow understanding trapped me
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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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i myself feel like i'm pretty open minded and have luckily had many experiences that have given me such a greater perspective on everything at teh age of 18, although my strong personality gets in the way sometimes. I have never heard someone so intelligent speak before, out of books i have read, etc.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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"when the student is ready, the teacher appears."

there is tremendous meaning in your post.
very few are blessed with such a meeting
or breathe the electric air @ Cathedral Rock.

i know i have had the opportunity to conversate with a Master,
but my eyes were not yet open for the experience.

i know the teacher knows more about me then i do, because the teacher is my Self.

the most beautiful days of my life are in Sedona,
i pray i will make it back Home before it's too soon...

Edited by soundmind (11/16/02 03:54 AM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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We will come across these people in our lives, to help us open our eyes and appreciate the beauty. The Universe will see to it that there is balance, and like magnets we will be attracted together. These are the modern day shamans... who come for the sole purpose of helping us transcend the material plane and into a spiritual existance of love and harmony. You have been contacted.. use the inner sight and wisdom gained to manifest your reality in the best way you can imagine. It will come.

We are spiritual beings, having a human experience


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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this sounds nice.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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Jenny,

You hit me right in the heart-spot. I too have a similar experience, except the man i met was literally my art teacher for my first 2 years in college (im in my 4th now, and he has since moved away). He taught things that i would laugh off or shrug about... things about the universe and the ebb and flow of energies. He taught about life and the pursuits of the ego and the soul... chakras...energy bodies...the relationship between santa claus/the amanita muscaria/ and coca cola (just ask if you interested, its a very very interesting angle on american culture and human nature)... and all of that mystical good shit. I never took it seriously until after he left.

I always knew that he was a special person that had much to offer, and we kept in touch after he left through emails. It wasnt until i began my interest in mushrooms that his true being came crystallized to me. He came back in town with his wonderful wife to hang and see me and other friends. Well, i ended up finding a good amount of some green for him and he brought along a gift of some tasty mush chocolates, knowing my recent interest and curiousity... well i kept them hidden away for a month or so, more out of fear of the proverbial bad trip. Well one day i finally split them up with my girlfriend and ate them. The experience was mindshattering... i called him shortly after the peak to express my love and care for this man and his wife, to explain that everything he had once said and i disregarded was 100% right. I knew that I had been directed to him as a teacher to learn both art and life....

to this day we talk thru emails and on the phone... and i occasionally go to visit him and his wife. There is never a time when i feel that i havent learned something when i speak with or am around him.

life is just amazing when it brings these people to you isnt it?

thanks for the story
jah


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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I didn't think your post was lame and I came away with very distinct images.  I think you conveyed your ideas well.

I think it is very good you found someone that could tell you but it is an even greater good that you were able to listen.  Our personalities sometimes plug our ears.

At the age of 47 I have spent a good deal of time in the presence of teachers.  My first was my high school science teacher who introduced me to Eastern Mysticism at the ripe old age of 13.  He lent me his copy of The Third Eye and started me on my path.

I also find it interesting when white people discover what we Natives have known for a long long time.  Then again, we're just "dirty redskins". :smirk:

Take the journey...... 

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: ]
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Thanks, guys, you all make wonderful points.
i used to read a lot and have been pretty lazy lately, and just
ordered some books on shamanism and buddhism. I've read a dalai lama book and a little on the net about each, but not into any depth. Now my curiosity by you guys and this wise man has been sparked.
Thank you.
i feel i'm on a downword spiral as far as drugs taking over, i think something that will help me get out of this rut is a more spiritual side.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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You're welcome Jenny.

May you find not only what you are looking for but also what you need and the wisdom to know the difference.

Cheers,

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Middleman]
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"when the student is ready, the teacher appears."

That phrase makes as much sense as:

"When the victim is ready, the robber will appear."


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: ]
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Mr. Mushrooms,

big respect to all the 'dirty redskins'.  I have always felt a respect for the natives, well as long as i have had independent thought enough to realize that christopher columbus was a crock of shit (im italian too!) and america was founded on lies and  blood of your people.  i have been trying to get this damned native american religions class here at my university for about 3 years now... its been filled up every semester. :frown:

there is so much to be learned...

reminds me of a song that i have just heard...

part of it goes
"this paradise has become americanized, but what for?"

btw, could you recommend some good books on native north american shamanism or just some good books on your own tribes origins and beliefs? 

thx
jfi 


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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i think it means more that when the student finally comes to a realization, he/she sees those who have been his/her teacher all along.

not just "oh, im ready to learn" then POOF! "hey, there, i will be your spiritual guide now tha tyou are ready"

but hey, anything can happen


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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When you phrase it like that it makes sense, though I doubt that your first explanation is the way it is usually meant.


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The proof is in the pudding.

Edited by Swami (11/16/02 10:30 AM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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Very beautiful post
It was full of meaning and understanding..
Thank you for sharing such a wonderful experience ...it really glows trough...
:grin:

*love* 

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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heh, it wasnt me that said it.  i just rephrased it

but i see your point.  americans like taking things at face value. (im one too)

:smile: 


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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I once visited an energy vortex in Sedona. No spiritual awakening unfolded, but my clothes came out whiter and had that crisp spring smell.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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I once visited an energy vortex in Sedona. No spiritual awakening unfolded, but my clothes came out whiter and had that crisp spring smell.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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im sure it has more to do with intent than physically stepping into a vortex of energy and expecting enlightenment.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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I was talking about the downtown Sedona laundromat with all that whirling energy...


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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OH

i see. maybe you got erroneous directions?

heh


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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I think that is how it is usually meant. Here's what Be Here Now has to say:

IT'S AS IF THE GURU IS AN AIRPLANE HOVERING
OVER A LANDING FIELD AND THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH GROUND TRAFFIC FOR THE PLANE TO LAND. CARS ALL OVER THE RUNWAY. LOOKING FOR A GURU. HE JUST CIRCLES AND CIRCLES, DOING A HOLDING PATTERN, WAITING FOR YOU TO CLEAR YOUR RUNWAY SO HE CAN LAND. HE'S SITTING UP THERE (IN HERE) ALL THE TIME.




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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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here's the thing i don't get:

"i spend most of my time in the nature and have never payed a bill in my life. I travel all over the world and visit as many places as possible and been doing so over the past 15 years"

where does this guy get the funds to travel the world and not pay any bills? does he even live in a house with electricity, running water, and heat or does he mooch off people all over the world?

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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Jenny it looks like you've come across a truely enlightened individual.

REMEMBER the things you've posted here. REMEMBER the magic; in modern society its really easy to let these types of revelations and "mystical experiences" melt into the unconscious all too quickly - in fact here in the US its actually encouraged!

So hold on to that magic and start your new direction with pride and confidence.

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
I don't know many 18-year-old girls who actually listen to words coming out of somebody's mouth unrelated to pop-culture or fashion - kinda proud of you :smile:


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In addition: SHPONGLE

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Strumpling]
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How could an unelightened individual recognize an enlightened individual? Perceptual errors are indicative of an unenlightened mind.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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Great post! I'm glad for you Jenny.

I hope you find the willpower to get yourself out of that place you're in. I had that problem once and it affected me in a very bad way. I had to move back home and medatate for an entire day to overcome the majority of that ugly feeling.

If you need someone else to talk to, I'll be here most of the time, so you can message me or something if you'd like.

Thank you for you sharing this story with us. It made me smile. :smile:

And Swami; shut the hell up.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Edited by Murex (11/16/02 03:07 PM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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My view:

1. "looks like" she encountered an enlightened individual.

2. she said it was the most enlightening experience of her life..


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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May I recommend a book?....The Way of The Wizard by Deepak Chopra.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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and remember the key thing of this encounter (similar to what soundmind said)... everything you experience in your life is called to you by YOURSELF... there is no such thing as a coincidence so you should also be blessing yourself for beeing ready to interact with a master like this, and attracting him into your life...


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Edited by Lozt Soul (11/16/02 06:36 PM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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Thank you for the respect you show my people.

I consider you a 'friend of the tribe' for your attitude.

As far as books on the subject are concerned I do not own many.  My experiences have taught me and I learned them from my brothers.  I do own one that I would recommend.  It's called shaman  The Wounded Healer by Joan Halifax.

Do not disparage your blood.  Their is a connection between our peoples in a mystical sense.  This is why Romans are prone to Catholicism.  They sense the necessity of ritual.  But you are right, CC was a jerk, in his own way.  Besides, the Scandinavian peoples were here first. :wink:

Intuitively I sense that you are ready for something.  I will pm you with instructions.  I rarely do this for anyone let alone a waschiu.

Cheers, 

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: ]
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Thank you all for your advice and book recommendations!
You are all very passionate and it really shows (most, anyhow). I really appreciate it. :smile:


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: ]
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Mr. Mushroom,

Do not mistake my resent for CC as a disrespect for my own beginnings... I dont denounce my catholic upbringing, as it did instill many good values and morals in my life... though i do not consider myself a catholic (although the church registry probably does, as do my parents (they are not ready for the truth)).  I came away with many good bits of knowledge of christ-consciousness through my experiences in the church, but it wasnt enough to compete with the shear truth that i was confronted with when i entered my own realm in college, through independence from my home life.

Its not until you get somewhere where people arent given a cirriculum to teach that you learn the truth.  Most of my social studies teachers have been extremely open about the flaws of the western man... and though i live in an area notorious for ignorance (GA) and those professors have been ridiculed and literally heckled by the class, they continued to tell the truth... namely my american history class.  I learned so much that it made me want to vomit... these are things that my middle/highschool teachers wouldnt dare touch, much less my parents.  Now they get and earful everytime i see them... i will go off on a tangent about some american policy or some 'white-mans burden' based rant... and boy do they scurry to change that subject!  they shut themselves off from the truth.

so , at this point in my life i want to learn all that is possible about those who came before me and those who are still around.  I want to see every angle of spirituality and truth, because i have a steadfast belief that we are all, in essence, doing the same thing ( if done with true intent)... honoring God... or whatever you would like to name him.

thank you for the book reccomendation, i will look for it in my library on campus.  Any other bits of knowledge you feel fit to pass to me will be greatly appreciated and revered. 

:smile:
jfi 


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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"Its not until you get somewhere where people arent given a cirriculum to teach that you learn the truth."

Remember what I said.

Cheers,

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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I have a burning question regarding what you said this wiseman told you, yet everyone here is choosing to ignore it:

"i spend most of my time in the nature and have never payed a bill in my life. I travel all over the world and visit as many places as possible and been doing so over the past 15 years"

Since this man speaks "the truth", i assume he is not exaggerating when he told you this. soooo....where does this guy get the funds to travel the world and not pay any bills? does he even live in a house with electricity, running water, and heat or does he mooch off people all over the world? does he have a job? is he a man that lives off the land and cook his meat over a fire? I'm not trying to diss him up or you with my persisting questions, this is just a big anomaly that's being glazed over as everyone saying "wow, you are so lucky.... i wish i could meet a person like that...." blah blah blah.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: chodamunky]
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There's a huge difference between "mooching" and living the only way you know how to live.
Maybe this man can "afford" his travels because of the love he brings into people's lives.
Most people would be glad to share a meal and their couch with someone who has an effect on them such as the man in question does.

Edited by dee_N_ae (11/17/02 10:14 AM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: chodamunky]
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I don't know, i don't know his profession or where his money comes from. i haven't seen him since.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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In reply to:

Someone that has the ability to restore faith to even the most insecure, shy person (not me, but he couldve, no doubt) and give light to all that are lost and even those wanting answers, or reasons to the baffling problems most humans face, is someone that is literally, out of this world. He was more than a wise man, he was as some sort of diety or such.

Why do you think people join cults? Because they are insecure, shy, lost and all the rest, and then they meet a charismatic guy who's smart, well-spoken, and seems to have all the answers. People stand around listening to him thinking that he's a wise man or even a deity. Six months later they all live in a communal situation doing opium and all the women are pregnant with the holy man's babies. There's a guy who's done this a few times in a nearby area.

There are tons of people where I live who follow his lifestyle. They generally sit on the street and play drums or tell stories for money, and migrate from the coast to the interior by hitching. It really doesn't take a lot of money when all you buy is food, and you'd be amazed at what a little dumpster diving can procure. Give it a try sometime it's pretty educational.

Anyway, don't be offended I'm just pointing out some things that may or may not apply to your situation, you'd know better than I do but it doesn't hurt to try applying this paranoid thinking a bit.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Dogomush]
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He's a diety because he has other people do stuff for him and he gets a lot o pussy. He has no job and he does drugs all the time. What a life.



(j/k)


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Dogomush]
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she mentioned he doesn't seem to get close to people really and keeps moving....

a travelling one-man cult?

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
.. hmm..


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Strumpling]
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Hey I didn't say he was a one-man cult or a wanna-be cult leader, just commenting on the part where jenny says that he's enlightened or whatever because he can make an insecure person feel better about himself.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Dogomush]
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OK then. That makes sense... sorry for being so confused all the time :smile:

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
wait what?


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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"he nailed everything, including some extremely personal things that left me dumfounded"

Sounds like a really cool story, but I'm always skeptical about people who claim they can see the future or know anything about you.  I've received many psychic readings just for the heck of it, and they have either been very wrong, or more often, they speak in generalities that are true of 90% of the population (such as "you wish to be successful in life" or "you enjoy the company of others", etc.)  Similary, my horoscope is often right on.  But it's no better than the horoscope of any other sign I choose to read as if it were mine.

I have an open mind though.  Would you mind sharing some of the things he nailed that left you dumbfounded?  And is it possible that your reactions to what he was saying helped him figure out more about you? (I always keep a unemotional straight face when I get a psychic reading, to ensure I don't help the psychic figure me out by my reaction, and I believe that's why they are always so bad at figuring me out).

The guy sounds like an interesting person though, and I'd probably love to hear his thoughts on the universe.  :grin: 


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Strumpling]
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Great post Jenny, Kinda weird how we havent ran into each other considering that I am in Flag very often and frequent Sedona as well. In fact my very first journey that I saught to endevor on took place in Flag. I backpack very often and plan on going to either flag or sedona this weekend, I am stuck in the valley though, so it takes a bit to drive. Great story still.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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:smile: 

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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Hey jahfeelirie,  Tell us more about this:

the relationship between santa claus/the amanita muscaria/ and coca cola (just ask if you interested, its a very very interesting angle on american culture and human nature)

Please, I havnt heard this one before, and I'd love to!!!! :laugh: :laugh:

Lemme guess, it's the red and white thing........right?! 


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You're my blue sky, you're my sunny day,
Lord you know it makes me high when you turn your love my way. Turn your love my waaaaaay, Yea.
-Richard (Dickey) Betts

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: chodamunky]
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i found a little more out about him. He makes jewelry and sells, he goes by Wildspirit and lives in the woods in Sedona right now. we're going to go camping with them tomorrow.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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excellent - let us know how things go out there, and don't forget to forget the speed ;-P


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In addition: SHPONGLE

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