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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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OH

i see. maybe you got erroneous directions?

heh


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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I think that is how it is usually meant. Here's what Be Here Now has to say:

IT'S AS IF THE GURU IS AN AIRPLANE HOVERING
OVER A LANDING FIELD AND THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH GROUND TRAFFIC FOR THE PLANE TO LAND. CARS ALL OVER THE RUNWAY. LOOKING FOR A GURU. HE JUST CIRCLES AND CIRCLES, DOING A HOLDING PATTERN, WAITING FOR YOU TO CLEAR YOUR RUNWAY SO HE CAN LAND. HE'S SITTING UP THERE (IN HERE) ALL THE TIME.




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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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here's the thing i don't get:

"i spend most of my time in the nature and have never payed a bill in my life. I travel all over the world and visit as many places as possible and been doing so over the past 15 years"

where does this guy get the funds to travel the world and not pay any bills? does he even live in a house with electricity, running water, and heat or does he mooch off people all over the world?

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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Jenny it looks like you've come across a truely enlightened individual.

REMEMBER the things you've posted here. REMEMBER the magic; in modern society its really easy to let these types of revelations and "mystical experiences" melt into the unconscious all too quickly - in fact here in the US its actually encouraged!

So hold on to that magic and start your new direction with pride and confidence.

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
I don't know many 18-year-old girls who actually listen to words coming out of somebody's mouth unrelated to pop-culture or fashion - kinda proud of you :smile:


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Strumpling]
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How could an unelightened individual recognize an enlightened individual? Perceptual errors are indicative of an unenlightened mind.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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Great post! I'm glad for you Jenny.

I hope you find the willpower to get yourself out of that place you're in. I had that problem once and it affected me in a very bad way. I had to move back home and medatate for an entire day to overcome the majority of that ugly feeling.

If you need someone else to talk to, I'll be here most of the time, so you can message me or something if you'd like.

Thank you for you sharing this story with us. It made me smile. :smile:

And Swami; shut the hell up.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Edited by Murex (11/16/02 03:07 PM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Swami]
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My view:

1. "looks like" she encountered an enlightened individual.

2. she said it was the most enlightening experience of her life..


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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May I recommend a book?....The Way of The Wizard by Deepak Chopra.


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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and remember the key thing of this encounter (similar to what soundmind said)... everything you experience in your life is called to you by YOURSELF... there is no such thing as a coincidence so you should also be blessing yourself for beeing ready to interact with a master like this, and attracting him into your life...


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Edited by Lozt Soul (11/16/02 06:36 PM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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Thank you for the respect you show my people.

I consider you a 'friend of the tribe' for your attitude.

As far as books on the subject are concerned I do not own many.  My experiences have taught me and I learned them from my brothers.  I do own one that I would recommend.  It's called shaman  The Wounded Healer by Joan Halifax.

Do not disparage your blood.  Their is a connection between our peoples in a mystical sense.  This is why Romans are prone to Catholicism.  They sense the necessity of ritual.  But you are right, CC was a jerk, in his own way.  Besides, the Scandinavian peoples were here first. :wink:

Intuitively I sense that you are ready for something.  I will pm you with instructions.  I rarely do this for anyone let alone a waschiu.

Cheers, 

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: ]
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Thank you all for your advice and book recommendations!
You are all very passionate and it really shows (most, anyhow). I really appreciate it. :smile:


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: ]
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Mr. Mushroom,

Do not mistake my resent for CC as a disrespect for my own beginnings... I dont denounce my catholic upbringing, as it did instill many good values and morals in my life... though i do not consider myself a catholic (although the church registry probably does, as do my parents (they are not ready for the truth)).  I came away with many good bits of knowledge of christ-consciousness through my experiences in the church, but it wasnt enough to compete with the shear truth that i was confronted with when i entered my own realm in college, through independence from my home life.

Its not until you get somewhere where people arent given a cirriculum to teach that you learn the truth.  Most of my social studies teachers have been extremely open about the flaws of the western man... and though i live in an area notorious for ignorance (GA) and those professors have been ridiculed and literally heckled by the class, they continued to tell the truth... namely my american history class.  I learned so much that it made me want to vomit... these are things that my middle/highschool teachers wouldnt dare touch, much less my parents.  Now they get and earful everytime i see them... i will go off on a tangent about some american policy or some 'white-mans burden' based rant... and boy do they scurry to change that subject!  they shut themselves off from the truth.

so , at this point in my life i want to learn all that is possible about those who came before me and those who are still around.  I want to see every angle of spirituality and truth, because i have a steadfast belief that we are all, in essence, doing the same thing ( if done with true intent)... honoring God... or whatever you would like to name him.

thank you for the book reccomendation, i will look for it in my library on campus.  Any other bits of knowledge you feel fit to pass to me will be greatly appreciated and revered. 

:smile:
jfi 


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: jahfeelirie]
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"Its not until you get somewhere where people arent given a cirriculum to teach that you learn the truth."

Remember what I said.

Cheers,

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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I have a burning question regarding what you said this wiseman told you, yet everyone here is choosing to ignore it:

"i spend most of my time in the nature and have never payed a bill in my life. I travel all over the world and visit as many places as possible and been doing so over the past 15 years"

Since this man speaks "the truth", i assume he is not exaggerating when he told you this. soooo....where does this guy get the funds to travel the world and not pay any bills? does he even live in a house with electricity, running water, and heat or does he mooch off people all over the world? does he have a job? is he a man that lives off the land and cook his meat over a fire? I'm not trying to diss him up or you with my persisting questions, this is just a big anomaly that's being glazed over as everyone saying "wow, you are so lucky.... i wish i could meet a person like that...." blah blah blah.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: chodamunky]
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There's a huge difference between "mooching" and living the only way you know how to live.
Maybe this man can "afford" his travels because of the love he brings into people's lives.
Most people would be glad to share a meal and their couch with someone who has an effect on them such as the man in question does.

Edited by dee_N_ae (11/17/02 10:14 AM)

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: chodamunky]
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I don't know, i don't know his profession or where his money comes from. i haven't seen him since.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Jenny]
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In reply to:
Someone that has the ability to restore faith to even the most insecure, shy person (not me, but he couldve, no doubt) and give light to all that are lost and even those wanting answers, or reasons to the baffling problems most humans face, is someone that is literally, out of this world. He was more than a wise man, he was as some sort of diety or such.

Why do you think people join cults? Because they are insecure, shy, lost and all the rest, and then they meet a charismatic guy who's smart, well-spoken, and seems to have all the answers. People stand around listening to him thinking that he's a wise man or even a deity. Six months later they all live in a communal situation doing opium and all the women are pregnant with the holy man's babies. There's a guy who's done this a few times in a nearby area.

There are tons of people where I live who follow his lifestyle. They generally sit on the street and play drums or tell stories for money, and migrate from the coast to the interior by hitching. It really doesn't take a lot of money when all you buy is food, and you'd be amazed at what a little dumpster diving can procure. Give it a try sometime it's pretty educational.

Anyway, don't be offended I'm just pointing out some things that may or may not apply to your situation, you'd know better than I do but it doesn't hurt to try applying this paranoid thinking a bit.

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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Dogomush]
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He's a diety because he has other people do stuff for him and he gets a lot o pussy. He has no job and he does drugs all the time. What a life.



(j/k)


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Dogomush]
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she mentioned he doesn't seem to get close to people really and keeps moving....

a travelling one-man cult?

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
.. hmm..


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Re: the most enlightening experience of my life [Re: Strumpling]
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Hey I didn't say he was a one-man cult or a wanna-be cult leader, just commenting on the part where jenny says that he's enlightened or whatever because he can make an insecure person feel better about himself.

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