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biologys
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: faceyneck]
#14058531 - 03/03/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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less pleasant?
i've always heard feedback that PE is more potent then other cubes
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hamloaf
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: biologys]
#14058550 - 03/03/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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PE's more potent then other cubes in general, yes, IMHE. What facey has mixed up is that it's easy to eat too much PE because you didn't listen to the advise of more rounded trippers who say cut the dose back if you wanna survive on PE.
These stubborn individuals end up eating a regular dose of PE (3.5 grams) thinking they'r going to be like regular cubes and can easily end up having a bad trip due to the uncontrollable level of high that comes on at once and seemingly stays there or be an up and down, roller coaster trip.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: hamloaf]
#14058748 - 03/03/11 08:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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"it's easy to eat too much PE"
I think that Hamloaf nailed it.
I made this mistake myself. Bad idea. Wow though.
JD
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13shrooms
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Morelman]
#14059318 - 03/03/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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depends on the conditions/environment they were grown in. slight changes effect the looks of the mature fruits.
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biologys
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#14059338 - 03/03/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Golden Teachers
  
and then, same spawn diff tub
   
morel of the story...they all turn out different...lol
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Morelman]
#14071230 - 03/05/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The GT spores I've been using originated from Roadkill years and years ago. I must say that for whatever reason, the color has lightened up a lot over the years. Here's what they look like now:

I wish I had some older pics. When I first grew them out, the phenotypes were much darker, and 'golden' in color, I would say. 
I personally haven't gotten noticeable variance in pigment from one strain to the next, except for Golden Teacher, which has like bleached over the years for me, in my environment. I suppose it's totally possible, and I'm by no means an expert on this topic.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: faceyneck]
#14072399 - 03/05/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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faceyneck said: I must say that for whatever reason, the color has lightened up a lot over the years.
I've noticed that temperature can affect the cap color slightly... this may not be what is happening to you though, just an observation 
higher temps. = lighter colored caps lower temps. = darker color, slower growing
and by lower, I mean less than 65 F and by higher, I mean over 75+ F
just something I have noticed after various grows using Burma...
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Can someone tell me if this is feasible: I have a shiitake print and was thinking I could make a syringe and noc some jars but do edibles need to be germd in a lc or agar first? I ask because every log ive seen uses either plugs or some other culture and i want to make sure its ok to inoc with ms.
Edited by centurz (03/09/11 05:04 PM)
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andymc
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: centurz]
#14093858 - 03/09/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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centurz said: Can someone tell me if this is feasible: I have a shiitake print and was thinking I could make a syringe and noc some jars but do edibles need to be germd in a lc or agar first? I ask because every log ive seen uses either plugs or some other culture and i want to make sure its ok to inoc with ms.
Better to post in the gourmet and medicinals thread for advice about growing those.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: andymc]
#14104341 - 03/11/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does anyone have any experience with puerto rican cubensis? I have grown out over 10-15 different strains of cubes, and a couple of exotics, I have never had a problem with them fruiting in the end. I have even grown some notorious slow fruiters, like pe and cr. These seem to just be growing myc, they havnt pinned in weeks, and I have already had flushes from all the other strains started at the same time.
Is this strain more sensitive to temp? I am running on the lower end, most of the time its around 70, sometimes as high as 72, sometimes as low as 68, but mostly always around 70. Has never been a problem before with any other strain.
I got these from sporeworks in their holiday stocking stuffer, I have always gone with them, and never had a problem....
Edited by DEADHEAD420024 (03/11/11 02:45 PM)
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andymc
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Perhaps you should start a new thread for your question.
EDIT> I'm an idiot
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Edited by andymc (03/11/11 02:50 PM)
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: andymc]
#14105639 - 03/11/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Given that we are talking about a MS inoculation using a SW syringe, I cannot suggest the favorite, and relatively easy, answer of "genetics".
If you transferred your own isolation from it, then I suppose that genetics might still be a culprit.
Maybe someone will know of an special environmental need.
Good luck,
JD
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andymc
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Javadog]
#14105878 - 03/11/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DEADHEAD420024 said: Does anyone have any experience with puerto rican cubensis? I have grown out over 10-15 different strains of cubes, and a couple of exotics, I have never had a problem with them fruiting in the end. I have even grown some notorious slow fruiters, like pe and cr. These seem to just be growing myc, they havnt pinned in weeks, and I have already had flushes from all the other strains started at the same time.
As Javadog indicated, this wouldn't apply if you're using multispore, but if you have a culture that's not multispore, then you may have cultured a non- or slow-fruiting strain.
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Javadog said: P.S. You're human Andy. (who knew ;0)
I mixed up which thread I was reading
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afrosheen
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: andymc]
#14106060 - 03/11/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think Andy's right on. It's possible to isolate and end up with a non-fruiting substrain. The odds are against it, but it remains a possible outcome.
Also, you could have birthed too early (however unlikely) so the cake is still in the vegetative, colonization phase of growth. You can try to force pinning by balling up some wax paper, lightly misting the cake and setting the unfolded wax paper on the surface. That'll create a microclimate while still allowing a certain amount of fresh air to hit the cake. Then again..if you don't even have side pins at this point, it's a mystery.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: afrosheen]
#14107988 - 03/12/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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quick question on strains and yields...i have been growing treasure coast for a while and have been averaging 3-4 zips first flush and 2 second in my monotubs...i'm switching up to do about 30 tubs of golden teacher and 30 of b+....do you suppose that the these strains will give me better yields on my tubs?...from what i understand theyre both bigger mushrooms in size than the treasure coast at maturity, and this would lead one to believe that the yield would be greater
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If you want greater yields, you gotta focus on a few factors. It'd be best to clone and isolate for specific traits from your existing strains. If you desire a full canopy, clone and isolate from a young cluster. If you want lots of big boys, clone and isolate large fruits.
It's gonna take some agar work to get to where you want to be, and maybe some tweaking of your sub. I think you can make any strain perform the way you want through isolation, cloning, and experimentation.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: afrosheen]
#14108433 - 03/12/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am on a peu grow an I have 3 out of 7 tubs done an in greenhouse, I have HUNDREDS of pins, does peu usually do this? They are all over the sides bottom top everywhere.
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steelmonkey
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PR's are my favorite strain their basically all i grow the tempature you mentioned shouldn't be a problem mine are incubated and colonized at 78 to 82 and my fruiting temps run from 63 to 70 with no problems at all
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