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Offlineuser_exists
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    #1055483 - 11/15/02 01:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I've been fucking with shrooms for a while now all my experimental substrates fucked up not to much suprise but I can't even get my straight brown rice jars to colonize. I do the lysol thing, I sterilize everyhting with isypropanol, I PC for at least a half hour (my birdseed 90 min, brown rice 40 min), I need some help I got the rice I think today is as good as any for another batch of jars so please any advice I'm obviosly doing something wrong.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055515 - 11/15/02 01:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you mean brown rice flour or whole brown rice? you're using vermiculite also, right?


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055531 - 11/15/02 01:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Why don't you write down your procedures in detail, post them here and perhaps someone can be of some assistance. No one will be able to help you without details,man details!!



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Re: my newbie ass [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1055680 - 11/15/02 02:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I never got my jars to work for shit either. So I went to Myco bags, because I am a newbie and i can't even get fucking mold to grow in a jar.

I guess we both suck.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: Newbie2000]
    #1055888 - 11/15/02 03:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

fuck all I can grow is contams.

as for details I just used a simple whole brown rice tek cooking according to instructions minus the butter and salt then straining in a strainer a pushing down with a cloth the PC'd for 40 minutes. Left to cool then inoculated with a honeywater syringe made with an EQ syringe.

My problem may have been the honeywater but fuck I'd still love some tips on my grow here.

Making a cambo spore syringe tommorow.

My jars show no sign of growth a few have white cobwebby mold.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055900 - 11/15/02 03:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i'd back up and use the newbie's brown rice flour tek and a spore syringe. then you can experiment after that. i think you left too many places to make mistakes/contams for a newbie.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055932 - 11/15/02 03:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If you haven't grown anything successfully yet, why are you messing around with all these different teks? If you want success you must make baby steps. Follow the PF tek to the letter, and you will grow mushrooms. It's pretty simple. Make the investment in the needed equipments, follow the tek, study every step, analyze what and why your doing it, learn from the process, and when you have some experience under your belt, move on to more advanced techniques.
And above all else, READ. Read everything you can get your eyeballs on. There is so much information available to those who seek it out, it'll make your head spin. You can't be lazy and expect mushrooms to just jump up in front of you. It takes some work, perserverance, and patience. Make the required efforts and you will enjoy a bountiful harvest. If not, then too bad for you. Good Luck.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055939 - 11/15/02 03:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

" few have white cobwebby mold."


dude, thats mycellum. if you threw those out, your loss. I get growth in 3 days that starts of looking like cobweb mold then it grows thicker and becomes rich white.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055961 - 11/15/02 03:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Funny as it seems, my first try with Myco bags failed. No colonization at all. I said fuck it and researched the PF TEK. I followed every step exactly. 1st time was a success. My grow space isn't 100% sterile either. I use lysol and 91% alcohol.

Describe your incubator and fruiting chambers temps, RH and strain.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1055977 - 11/15/02 03:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well at least you're honest about it.
There are 2 different probs here: 1- No growth, and 2-growing contams.
I would attribute # 1 to moisture levels.
Try pre cooking some ORGANIC whole brown rice. If it's a little on the dry side, it won't clump together and should colonize quickly. Try 4 half pints at a time. If you have the $, consider buying pre-sterilized jars. That way you can see if it's your inoculation technique, or was it the jar sterilization? A professionally PC jar removes that variable(if you do your part).
The whole brown rice will tell you in 3-5 days if you did well. IMO it's a super simple way to test your techniques. Don' t waste your time on big batches until you can consistently do 2 or 3 jars. Precook 3 cups of whole, organic brown rice according to pkg instructions, but use ? cup less water. Let it cool. Rice should be dry and slightly sticky. You can pat it with paper towels if you think it's too wet. Gently scoop the rice into the jars- DO NOT pack it in or 'settle' it-leave lots of air spaces in the jar. Sort of a loose 'matrix' of rice. Put it in you big pot and seal the top of the pot tightly with aluminum foil. When water starts to boil , turn It down to low( as long as water is still boiling), and cook for1hour. Let jars cool over nite. Use polyfil and or coffee filter and rubber band on the top.
Then there's inoculation...



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Re: my newbie ass [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1056079 - 11/15/02 04:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I guess I should also say I don't have access to verm so I can't do pf style cakes.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1056098 - 11/15/02 04:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I see..

Have you searched the web?



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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1056107 - 11/15/02 04:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If you want vermiculite badly enuf, I'm sure there is a way to get you some damn verm. Try the plain whole brown rice first. You have to be able to grow something first. Once you can get a jar or to to germinate, you can take it up a notch.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1056114 - 11/15/02 04:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yes, there are plenty of places on the net that sell verm. and it's way light so shipping shouldn't be too bad. my first experiment was pre-sterilized brf jars. but that was before the b@stards started charging 50 bucks for 12 of them. oh well, supply and demand.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: Bilge]
    #1056154 - 11/15/02 04:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Oh Ok.

Thats robbery.

Wait until you get some verm.
Its soo worth it when you see your 1st PF cake fruit.


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: TRIPPYCHIK]
    #1056168 - 11/15/02 05:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

But if he can't get the jars to germinate, the vemiculite is a moot point.
How about a Vermiculite contest? Free verm as the prize. :laugh: 


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1056173 - 11/15/02 05:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

good idea, I could make a contest and the winner gets a bag of verm enough for two 1/2 pint jars, heck why not just give the verm and a syringe since the shipping would cost more then the verm is worth?


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1056178 - 11/15/02 05:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

dude, you can find verm, just look harder.... try some little rinky-dink hardware store and ask if they can order it for you.... if they ask why, say "i dont fuckin know, my mom wants them for her plants"
i had the same problem when i first started, i couldnt find anything, then i looked harder, and eventually i found everything i needed, i bought every bag of verm my hardware store had.... hehe they must think im some sort of vermiculiteaphile...

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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1056444 - 11/15/02 07:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You can buy some online. Try homeharvest.com
shipping supply stores use the coarse shit as packing medium. Try uline.com


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Re: my newbie ass [Re: user_exists]
    #1056584 - 11/15/02 07:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I remember sorting my supplies out when I first started growing.. Walking into chemists and getting strange looks when asking the staff if they sold pure alchohol & syringes. LOL !


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