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Re: Something new... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #9675759 - 01/25/09 11:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

what  , whao  ,  a bluing galerina that is one of the bluing i have seem  that really resemble a psilocybe one, not like other genera that bruise ,  really nice find
i still have my doub is galerina but you are the guys first hand, .
but also neataliformis  or other hypholoma  fit, 

galerina evoluty speaking is very close to psilocybe . but  they dont look  like any galerina i have seem, more like a psilocybe, rare , +
hope you can find more information or even make cultures and save the great find.


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Re: Something new... [Re: cactu]
    #9675770 - 01/25/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The culture is doing great.  Its nice and clean, somewhere between cottony and rhizomorphic, grows at a medium speed.

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Re: Something new... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #9675819 - 01/25/09 11:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup: i will  love to see a  mushrooms bed of this baby`s ¡

hope soon , :wink:


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Re: Something new... [Re: cactu]
    #9675823 - 01/25/09 11:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Cactu, why do you think naematoliformis could fit?

I dont see any similarities

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Re: Something new... [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #9675873 - 01/25/09 11:48 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

well is just  this make  me think  did you find chrysocystidia:

The combination of subrhomboid, thick-walled spores, presence of chrysocystidia,non cellular subpellis, and absence of a yellow pigmentation on the basidioma are considered good features for a new section in the genus Psilocybe. In this way sectionNeocaledonicae described by Guzmán in 1980 in Hypholoma (Naematoloma) is moving to
Psilocybe. Species belonging to this section are P. aequatoriae from Ecuador, P.naematoliformis from Mexico, P. neocaledonicum from New Caledonia and P.neorhombisporum, a new name, from Mexico, all of them tropical and blueing fungi.
but i must be all wrong is just i can`t see it as a galerina  ha ha


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Re: Something new... [Re: cactu]
    #9675938 - 01/25/09 11:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Do you see a germ pore in those spore photos?

I did not notice one. 

Let me know if you need more spore photos.

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Re: Something new... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10543850 - 06/20/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

 

Spores small with a finely roughened surface.  Pleurocystidia common, resembling cheilocystidia but with a narrower apex.  Occasional bright blue filaments (hyphae?) noted.  Basidia difficult to see, only one observed with apparently 4 sterigmata.


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Re: Something new... [Re: Workman]
    #10544669 - 06/20/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Workman, thank you!

That is great.  Looks like the spore size is within range for Galerina steglechii, though I have been unable to locate any other description of the microscopic features for that species, so it is inconclusive.

I will update the observation with links to these images and a quote of your summary.
Here is some info I added to the observation for this collection, and a link to the observation.

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Created: 2009-05-09 06:25:33
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G. steglichii is the only known species of bluing Galerina.  It is a psilocybin containing mushroom originally described from Germany in 1993.  Since then the species has been documented once more in Germany in 2005.

Germany is a pretty far way away, so perhaps it is a different bluing species of Galerina, or G. steglichii is a lot more wide spread then realized, but rare.

My collection looks similar to the photos linked to in the references I listed above, and having collected more from the patch a month or two after the initial find, the mature specimens looked a hell of a lot more like Galerina than Tubaria.  Furthermore, the fact that there is at least one species of Galerina that blues, and thus far no known bluing Tubaria, also supports the notion of this mushroom being a Galerina.

Here are some spores from the 2005 collection, to compare with the pictures of the spores Alan shot.

http://www.mollisia.de/Bilder_Galerie/Fotos/Galerina_steglichii_sporen.jpg

Spores: 8.5-10 x 5.5-8 microns  *measurements based on the 1993 description

So who with a 'scope wants to get some measurements?!

Dimi?  Doug??  Alan, you have one or two, you still interested?
I'll bring some to the BAMS thingy on Wednesday.



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Used references:

www.museocivico.rovereto.tn.it/UploadDocs/798_Annali10_1994_art11_gartz.pdf
http://www.mushroomjohn.org/galerinasteglechii1.htm
http://www.mollisia.de/Bilder_Galerie/Fotos/Galerina_steglichii1.jpg
http://www.mollisia.de/Bilder_Galerie/Fotos/Galerina_steglichii2.jpg
http://www.mollisia.de/Bilder_Galerie/Fotos/Galerina_steglichii3.jpg
http://www.mollisia.de/Bilder_Galerie/Fotos/Galerina_steglichii_sporen.jpg



*Link to observation:
http://mushroomobserver.org/16147

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Re: Something new... [Re: CureCat]
    #10546596 - 06/21/09 09:04 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

very interesting . i still can not see it as a galerina , great find curecat .looking forward to more answers


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