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OfflinexFizzle
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Sad Day
    #10536620 - 06/19/09 12:35 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

So last night I figured I'd try Morning Glory Seeds for the first time. I bought a lot and I had about 11g first. I was with 3 other friends and when I went to smoke pot I started coughing and threw up everything. I was so sad I went and bought another 4-5g and ate em but I didn't trip at all the whole night as my friends did. I just felt drained and couldn't move from the floor. I've shroomed countless times and this was my first experience with Morning Glory. Is it worth trying again? Just without throwing up :frown:

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Re: Sad Day [Re: xFizzle]
    #10536657 - 06/19/09 12:42 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

what was your method of ingestion, how many grams did your friends take, and how strong was there trips, and what species of MG did u use. also i have no morning glory experience im just curious

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Re: Sad Day [Re: Surad]
    #10536671 - 06/19/09 12:45 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

I just washed them with water and ate them. Its hard for me to do extraction at the house I live at. My friends ate less then me overall but had probably 8-10g. One of them tripped so hard and the other one was just a medium level. We used Burpee's from Holland or w/e. Thats what they sell at my local Walmart.

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Re: Sad Day [Re: xFizzle]
    #10536759 - 06/19/09 12:59 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

this is just my opinion and im sure there are many people who will disagree with me,  but lsa even in its purest form is highly over-rated.  as far as lysergic compounds go, nothing beats good ole lsd-25.


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10536799 - 06/19/09 01:05 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Geometry said:
this is just my opinion and im sure there are many people who will disagree with me,  but lsa even in its purest form is highly over-rated.  as far as lysergic compounds go, nothing beats good ole lsd-25.




thats because LSA isn't actually the hallucinogenic part, i dont remember the details on this...

as far as lysergic compounds go...nothing beats morning glory if you ask me (NOT extracted/refined LSA)...i havent tried riveo so i cant comment on that
its not as easy as LSD, but you get more out of it in my opinion

if you respect the MG it will reward you


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Re: Sad Day [Re: the bizzle]
    #10536865 - 06/19/09 01:16 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Geometry said:
this is just my opinion and im sure there are many people who will disagree with me,  but lsa even in its purest form is highly over-rated.  as far as lysergic compounds go, nothing beats good ole lsd-25.



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the bizzle said:
thats because LSA isn't actually the hallucinogenic part, i dont remember the details on this...




uh as far as i know lsa is a tryptamine and widely considered by experts as a hallucinogen.  however i agree in that it is much less psychedelic than lsd.

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as far as lysergic compounds go...nothing beats morning glory if you ask me (NOT extracted/refined LSA)...i havent tried riveo so i cant comment on that




i dont really see why straight seeds would be any better than the pure lsa extraction...  the rest of the seed just causes nausea and bodily discomfort.  if thats what youre looking for why not spin around in circles for an hour and throw yourself down a flight of stairs?  youd probably achieve just that.



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if you respect the MG it will reward you





i fail to see how having respect for a bag of seeds would change the neurological effects of the compound at all.  what did you realy mean by "respect"?


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10536918 - 06/19/09 01:25 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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what did you realy mean by "respect"?




Respecting sacred plants...the same kind of respect you give the Mushroom or anything that comes from Earth.

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Re: Sad Day [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #10537056 - 06/19/09 01:45 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Geometry said:
what did you realy mean by "respect"?




Respecting sacred plants...the same kind of respect you give the Mushroom or anything that comes from Earth.





i guess i must be missing something,  but i still dont see how respecting the active seeds youre taking has any impact on the effect it has on your neurophysiology.  unless by respect you mean dont be foolish with the seeds (taking too much or not thinking about when and where you take them).


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Re: Sad Day [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #10537069 - 06/19/09 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

The hallucinogen compound in morning glory is a 3-chemical complex, suspected to work together in a specialized fashion

what do I mean about respect? most people who try morning glory think that it sucks, because they had a shitty time with it. They will never know what they're missing out on, and that it's their attitude or method that sucked, and not the plant

and I never said straight seeds...life is incredible but it ain't just that easy


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10537070 - 06/19/09 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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unless by respect you mean dont be foolish with the seeds (taking too much or not thinking about when and where you take them).




A combination of this, along with a higher spiritual type respect. Something that people should have from using Psychedelics alone.

Not respecting a substance can have a direct impact on how your trip goes...

These are entheogens, not drugs.

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Re: Sad Day [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #10537112 - 06/19/09 01:54 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Geometry said:
unless by respect you mean dont be foolish with the seeds (taking too much or not thinking about when and where you take them).




A combination of this, along with a higher spiritual type respect. Something that people should have from using Psychedelics alone.

Not respecting a substance can have a direct impact on how your trip goes...







ok i figured you were poking at some sort of "spiritual" thing and i respect that.  persoanlly i think its a bunch of voodoo horse shit. ive enjoyed every compound in pihkal and tihkal and dont believe that psychedelic drugs have anything to do with the supernatural.. but thats just me, i dont believe in santa claus either.



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These are entheogens, not drugs.




hmm, so entheogens arent drugs huh?  here i was thinking they were drugs the whole time.  what else am i missing?  it seems like everyone here holds the answers to all my misconceptions.


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10537170 - 06/19/09 02:05 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

if you want proof man... take some pure mescaline

then try the real deal

big difference


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10537183 - 06/19/09 02:06 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Geometry it has nothing to do with Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny... lol

My guess is you've never had a ++++ experience before, and if you think you have, because of that mindset you haven't yet.

Drug is a word that gives sacred plants a negative stigma. Which is why you hear all the time in the media people saying, "Marijuana is a "hard drug" like Cocaine and Methamphetamine."

We all know this isn't true in any sense, but take it as you want...

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Re: Sad Day [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #10537237 - 06/19/09 02:13 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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My guess is you've never had a ++++ experience before, and if you think you have, because of that mindset you haven't yet.




:thumbup:
I completely agree


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10537245 - 06/19/09 02:14 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

I for one love Morning Glorys.

A simple yet effective cold water extraction does it for me every time, as long as the dose is high enough (15-20grams minimum)

Honestly, I laugh a little when I read about people who just munch em down without doing some research. Your gonna yack, or at least have stomach problems, and the body load can be overly intense. Never again will I eat the seeds. Do a cold water extraction, eat some ginger root, and make sure your stomach is empty. I never have nausea using this method.

I can honestly say LSA is different that LSD and shrooms. It's got it's own thing going on. It's hard to explain, unless you've hit the top with LSA, if you know what I mean. I have never felt anything quite like it.

I do them fairly regularly, about once or twice a month. I like that I don't feel like shit the next day, and it doesn't fuck with my mood/ego...not to mention it's CHEAP! $3.50 an ounce and I'm zingin!
I like to re-dose about 6 hours in, resulting in about 11-12 hours of pure enjoyment.


On that note, I would like to proclaim that I prefer drinking alcohol while on MG's rather than smoking weed. Smoking seemed to bring me down a tad, and just makes me hungry, whereas a few shots of Vodka/Rum seem to work wonderfully... and really set me off.

Four of us are doing an ounce each on 4th of July weekend. I can't freekin wait!


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Ved]
    #10537328 - 06/19/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

damn 4th of july MG...thats gonna be fucking AWESOME...I might have to do that

Watching the embers fly off of a fire at night is one of the most magical things I've ever seen with open eyes...fireworks should be amazing

damn Ved...thanks for the great idea...I wish I could give you 7 more rounds of +5 ratings :thumbup::thumbup:

p.s. listen to Vivi's theme and black mage village theme on MG lol...PM me if you need the hookup


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Re: Sad Day [Re: the bizzle]
    #10537397 - 06/19/09 02:39 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

ohhh, black mage village. I'll have to see if I can hunt that down!


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Re: Sad Day [Re: the bizzle]
    #10539004 - 06/19/09 07:19 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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My guess is you've never had a ++++ experience before, and if you think you have, because of that mindset you haven't yet.




:thumbup:
I completely agree





well thats a pretty bland assumption.  to comment on your earlier thread, i have indeed eaten pure mescaline, and have ALSO enjoyed peyote buttons and found the extraction much more enjoyable.


Yes i have experienced a ++++ and think its horribly ignorant to make assumptions of what other people experience.  i have felt what most people attribute to a spiritual world, but that just doesnt jive with my understanding of the universe. 

my first ++++ experience was on 3 grams of cubensis.  northern michigan,  bonfire.  upon coming up i walked to the end of the dock on a cloudless summer night, unabstructed by city lights.  i sat in a lawn chair and watched the dome of of stars suck the ego right out of my body. i sat there,  tears rolling down my eyes,  i have never understood my futility so well as i did that night.


most people would call this kind of experience as "spiritual" .  i just call it catalyzed insight.  can we agree to disagree?:confused:


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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10539059 - 06/19/09 07:32 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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most people would call this kind of experience as "spiritual" .  i just call it catalyzed insight.  can we agree to disagree?:confused:




as long as we can agree that you also made assumptions about my assumptions

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Re: Sad Day [Re: Geometry]
    #10539137 - 06/19/09 07:47 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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BiG_StroOnZ said:
My guess is you've never had a ++++ experience before, and if you think you have, because of that mindset you haven't yet.




:thumbup:
I completely agree





well thats a pretty bland assumption.  to comment on your earlier thread, i have indeed eaten pure mescaline, and have ALSO enjoyed peyote buttons and found the extraction much more enjoyable.


Yes i have experienced a ++++ and think its horribly ignorant to make assumptions of what other people experience.  i have felt what most people attribute to a spiritual world, but that just doesnt jive with my understanding of the universe. 

my first ++++ experience was on 3 grams of cubensis.  northern michigan,  bonfire.  upon coming up i walked to the end of the dock on a cloudless summer night, unabstructed by city lights.  i sat in a lawn chair and watched the dome of of stars suck the ego right out of my body. i sat there,  tears rolling down my eyes,  i have never understood my futility so well as i did that night.


most people would call this kind of experience as "spiritual" .  i just call it catalyzed insight.  can we agree to disagree?:confused:




IMO, that doesn't sound like a ++++ experience. Ego Loss and a ++++ experience aren't the same thing.

Not trying to take away from your experience, but YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE A ++++ experience it isn't something you're unsure about or try to compare with what other people would "consider"

Maybe you should try the crystal LSD "thumb print" :tongue:

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