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Anonymous #1

OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT
    #10519230 - 06/16/09 07:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

MORGAN COUNTY, Ga. -- Imagine being taxed on the amount of gas that you pass.

The Environmental Protection Agency doesn't want to tax you, but it does want to levy a tax on the amount of gas livestock produce.

Carol Williams and her husband Everett have about 1,200 cows at their Morgan County farm.

Those cows pass a lot of gas.


For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if a federal proposal to charge fees for air-polluting animals becomes law.

Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which is one of several put forward by the Environmental Protection Agency after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases emitted by belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution.

"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the proposal

It would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.



“I think there's been some studies done. Don't remember the figures. said Everett Williams.

I mean some of these girls are pretty good size girls,” Carol Williams.

The methane gas released by livestock affects the atmosphere.

The EPA's idea is to tax each dairy cow $175 a year and each beef cow $80 for the pleasure.

The cows won't pay, but the Williams will.

“About $150,000 a year. Basically it would put me out of business,” said Everett Williams.

What's worse is milk prices tanked this year. Farmers are getting about half of what they got paid last year.

“I feel they are picking on the farmers,” said Carol Williams.

The Williams’ do their share to help the environment. They grow their own feed and recycle the water and the manure.

If the EPA imposes a tax, the cows will need Gas-X.

“I don't think it would [do any good]. [It’s] not industrial strength,” said Everett Williams.


Remember when he said he would not raise taxes on anyone who makes less than 200k a year? Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.  Now he is going to put farmers out of business and when you buy milk its going to cost even more. so he is getting more tax money out of you there. He keeps lying to the public about or status. The shit is about to hit the fan and all the dumb asses who think he would do better because hes a black person just like them deserve whats coming.


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Anonymous #2

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10519313 - 06/16/09 07:49 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

the only good presidents are the dead one$


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #10519331 - 06/16/09 07:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

damn straight!!!


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Anonymous #3

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10519975 - 06/16/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

fuck the farmers, thats whats fucked our country over. we think its ok that where creating a system that works to an extent, no matter how much damage it does. obama is trying to show people this imperfect system is, and will not last. its bringing more harm then good. so he is trying to set better, higher standards. this is 2009 for godsakes. we are still using sytems that have ben around for more then 30 years, and its conflicting with the demand we have. fuel for ex. where still using fossil fuels and gas guzzling vehicles that weve used since 40 years etc. ago. now its affecting the earth, global warming, green house gasses etc. what obama is doing is a transition into cleaner,more efficient systems that will last and be less harmfull to the place we live for generations to come.  the farmers need to find cleaner foods  to feed the cows, and find a way to elimintate/use the gas that the cows produce. if it was me I would build a building with a good ventilation system. have the cows indoors, have the gas that the cows release be filtered and collected at the end of the ventaltion system. and use it to fuel/run other equipment around the farm. but instead of using their brains, people with wine and be little bitches about it. the'll complain because they have to pay more to have polluting cattle. instead of harnessing the methane gas the cattle expell. its a new age, they need to start thinking for the new age. there still dwelling on methods that have ben used for centurys, the world is going to shit, we need to prevent it or we wont have a planet to raise cattle etc.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #10520035 - 06/16/09 10:08 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

dumb ass global warming is fake. its been proven that heat spots on the sun determine our whether. obama has lied about everything. how did the farmers screw us over? obama said he would pull the troops out, no he is sending more. he said he wouldnt raise taxes. nope he is. i could go on and on. he is working for wall street, not the people
watch this video and it will tell you EVERYTHING


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520046 - 06/16/09 10:09 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

so you want us to shove pipes up the cows ass so we can capture it when the animal farts? your just retarded man. that is going to make you pay even more for your food idiot. now your milk is going to cost 10 dollars a gallon.


Edited by Anonymous (06/16/09 10:14 PM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520074 - 06/16/09 10:16 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

the farmers need to find cleener foods to give them??? are you retarded?? no matter what they eat they will still shit and fart.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520111 - 06/16/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

did you know the federal reserve is over the gov. how can a bank be over us? doesnt that go agaisnt what we are. they are a private owned co. that does what they want. this year 7.9 billion dollars in banker bailout moneywas stolen in the federal reserve for thier own purposes. no one even auditted them to find out wherethe money has gone too. thats complete BS.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520125 - 06/16/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

what obama is doing is a transition into cleaner,more efficient systems that will last and be less harmfull to the place we live for generations to come.




so why is it all the taxes he is imposing for food cars and such forth going to the banks and not into helping our economy? they are imposing hundreds of taxes that will put allot of farmers out of business. food will cost more, people wont buy it. the stores will lose money and have to close. more people lose their job. and then we are deeper in the hole. you #3 sir are a complete uneducated moron.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520132 - 06/16/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

his actions arent to produce cleaner air, but to make more money for the bank. as nothing new is being developed under his watch. just more money in the bank.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520176 - 06/16/09 10:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hahaha, yup. Alex batshit Jones knows all teh secrets.

Fuck you and your idiocy. Obama is doing a damn fine job.


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Anonymous #5

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520189 - 06/16/09 10:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The EPA doesnt care about shits and farts, they care about methane as they should.  Continue to be arrogant and ignorant if you want, but the people who study this stuff nearly unanimously disagree with you.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #10520195 - 06/16/09 10:45 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
The EPA doesnt care about shits and farts, they care about methane as they should.  Continue to be arrogant and ignorant if you want, but the people who study this stuff nearly unanimously disagree with you.





WELL WHEN THEY FART ITS METHANE GAS DUMB ASS


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10520199 - 06/16/09 10:46 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hes done a fine job? he sending more troops like he said he wouldnt. watch the video and you will see your wrong. way to be to ral dumb ass


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520207 - 06/16/09 10:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

he said only 345k lost thier jobs when infact 600k really lost thier jobs. he is lying to the ppl. hes just a puppet and when the shit hits then fan i will be there to say told ya so. and btw if you dont want the episode and try to say im wrong then you need to bring evidence to prove otherwise.


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Anonymous #5

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520210 - 06/16/09 10:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

That was my point...

Mass farmed cows/pigs produce a huge amount of methane.  Most animals don't.  If your cool with polluted air, so be it, but I think taxing the people who add poison to my air is only fair.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520230 - 06/16/09 10:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Hes done a fine job? he sending more troops like he said he wouldnt. watch the video and you will see your wrong. way to be to ral dumb ass





I've seen it. It's paranoid bullshit sans proof. And where's he sending the troops? Iraq? Or Afghanistan? What would constitute a fine job for you? I'm guessing a bunch of shit that will never happen.


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Anonymous #3

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10520250 - 06/16/09 10:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

global warming has ben happening years before obama took office. why the fuck do you think we are getting such bizzare weather patterns? why do you think you can sail a boat from the us to the artic without being trapped in ice? science proves global warming exists and is getting worse. the ice works as a mirror shooting the sun back out into space, with this ice melted and gone it cant shoot the sun back into space. therefore the earth is obsorbing more sun trapping green house gasses. this is causeing the earth to warm up.
why the fuck would you stick a tube up a cows ass, an idea is what I explained. to capture the gasses let off by the cattle. the cleaner the food fed to the cattle the cleaner the methane gas will come out of them.
obama is sending more troops for a reason. you cannot just pullout of a war zone.  the troops being sent over is to help teach the gov. over there how to keep the same level security with their troops as we have kept with ours. to try and improve their shitty system etc. now like any president this could be lies, but so far theres no reason to come to the conclusion that he is sending troops over there permentetly.
and  no shit it will make food taxes go up. so its up to the farmers to improve their way of farming, to be smarter and use more genious ways to outsmart the system so they do not get taxed up the ass.
And its not just the farmers system thats screwed us, its the imperfect systems that weve created over the las century. this includes the gov. etc. we find a system that works to solve a problem temporaraly, but on the long term this system becomes flawed. thats why most of the americans our strugling to live in this country, this has ben this way for years. bush just made it worst, obama was elected into a shit-mess storm. since its a mess to begin with, why not try to improve these systems.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #10520286 - 06/16/09 11:02 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)



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Anonymous #3

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10520314 - 06/16/09 11:06 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

lol, now thats one thing i do not agree with obama on. why the fuck should same sex couples get the same benifits as a non gay couple? what are they offering to society? a man and a women get married they are offering a chance for offspring, to increase the chance of survival for our race. so they get benifits. same sex marriage couples do not offer this but yet they demand the same benifits.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #10520338 - 06/16/09 11:10 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The race is overpopulated anyway. Should married people be required to have kids to get benefits? Anyway, I'm not going to debate whether or not gays deserve the same rights as straights. It would take too long and I probably wouldn't change your mind.


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Anonymous #3

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10520393 - 06/16/09 11:21 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

if you look at it as us being ants, or bugs. we are driven to overpopulate by nature, even if it is the wrong thing to do. its like its evolution programed into us, many creatures on earth do this. they over populate to increase the chance of servival, even if at the end it becomes their downfall. this is what we are doing. You probly wont change my mind, I just dont think they offer the same benifits to society. I dont beleive gays should get married, or have benifits. now I might be more welcomed to the idea if they would stop forcing it on people. ex, stupid one but true. the miss california that didnt belive gays should be married, she said she beleived only a  man and women should be married. people went nuts, like she had no right to say it. they diss on straights for not agreeing with it, but yet they demand they should be allowed to get married and benifits. they want a win win situation. but thats not how life is. if they dont get their way they protest, and blow it political so people have no choice but to rule in their favor. they need to except that some places will allow it and some will not.


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Anonymous #6

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #10520626 - 06/17/09 12:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

hey guys, lets collect our farts, put them into compressed tanks, and combust them for energy production.
I can see the new tv slogans now
"Before you hit the hay, stick a tube up your arse, its not gay!"

maybe not.

Animals fart. end of story.


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Anonymous #7

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #10522985 - 06/17/09 10:47 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Animals fart. end of story.





Not really.

Mass-farmed animals raised in profit-focused conditions are fed CRAP.

The food they eat is determining the methane release.

The foods these animals are fed are chosen to provide peak profit-attainment efficiency, without regard for the health of the animal or the planet.

Quote:

Wiki:

Ruminant animals are those that have a rumen. A rumen is a special stomach found in cows, sheep, and water buffalo that enables them to eat tough plants and grains that monogastric animals, such as humans, dogs, and cats, cannot digest.

Enteric fermentation occurs when methane (CH4) is produced in the rumen as microbial fermentation takes place. Over 200 species of microorganisms are present in the rumen, although only about 10% of these play an important role in digestion. Most of the CH4 byproduct is belched by the animal, however, a small percentage of CH4 is also produced in the large intestine and passed out as gas.

In Australia ruminant animals account for over half of their green house gas contribution from methane.[1] Australia has implemented a voluntary immunization program for cattle in order to help reduce flatulence-produced CH4.




By feeding these animals the most profit-friendly foods (aka, plants and grains that are not even considered food to a monogastric creature, which have no demand outside of the livestock industry) these companies are choosing to contribute to the unnecessary production of mass amounts of methane produced by the animal as a means of coping with a very low-nutrition food source.


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Anonymous #2

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #10523283 - 06/17/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

son im going to tuck you in now but that was a father to sun kiss you can let go of my balls


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Anonymous #7

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #10523394 - 06/17/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

You make so little sense, I can almost put a name to your persona... hmmm...


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Anonymous #8

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10523603 - 06/17/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Thank God the president is doing something about global warming.  I was worried for a while that he slacking on it while focusing on health care.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #10524393 - 06/17/09 03:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I understand we cant just pull out of the war. what im saying is when he was talking all his shit he said the first thing he will do is start pulling out. but then he goes against it. global warming is real but not because of us. i am sure we are aiding in some way. but the sun is causing other planets to warm up just like earth. its just cause the hot spots on the sun. nothing we can do to stop that. they are planning hundreds of taxes for the global warming. but how is that fixing the issue? that just gives them more money to put in their bank. our planet isnt overpopulated. i forgot the numbers but there are thousands of acres per human on this planet. i think it would help out if they just made all farmers have free range cows. this would give them a better life, better food and overall better for us. #^ if you think this is all crap then go ahead and read all the other post about him fucking us in the simil;ar thread section bellow this post. him directly may not be fucking us, but he is the puppet who was made to decieve the normal people into what wallstreet wants.


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Anonymous #9

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10524427 - 06/17/09 03:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA



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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #10524467 - 06/17/09 03:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

LOL


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Anonymous #6

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #10525334 - 06/17/09 06:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Animals fart. end of story.





Not really.

Mass-farmed animals raised in profit-focused conditions are fed CRAP.

The food they eat is determining the methane release.

The foods these animals are fed are chosen to provide peak profit-attainment efficiency, without regard for the health of the animal or the planet.

Quote:

Wiki:

Ruminant animals are those that have a rumen. A rumen is a special stomach found in cows, sheep, and water buffalo that enables them to eat tough plants and grains that monogastric animals, such as humans, dogs, and cats, cannot digest.

Enteric fermentation occurs when methane (CH4) is produced in the rumen as microbial fermentation takes place. Over 200 species of microorganisms are present in the rumen, although only about 10% of these play an important role in digestion. Most of the CH4 byproduct is belched by the animal, however, a small percentage of CH4 is also produced in the large intestine and passed out as gas.

In Australia ruminant animals account for over half of their green house gas contribution from methane.[1] Australia has implemented a voluntary immunization program for cattle in order to help reduce flatulence-produced CH4.




By feeding these animals the most profit-friendly foods (aka, plants and grains that are not even considered food to a monogastric creature, which have no demand outside of the livestock industry) these companies are choosing to contribute to the unnecessary production of mass amounts of methane produced by the animal as a means of coping with a very low-nutrition food source.




I can understand the problems with shed raised beasts and the shit they feed them.. but free range - i don't see the issue, even without us they'd still breed and eat fucking grass and leaves and anything growing out of the ground - which produces plenty of methane, they'll burp and fart no matter what they eat, they're grazers and thus spend most their time chewing and burping.

I don't see the point in comparing ruminant to monogastric. We evolved differently. because we eat different foods we have different digestive systems. If it has alot to do with the microrganisms, i'm all for intervening with "immunization". But really its missing the bigger picture, we've got to stop cutting down so many fucking trees - rather we should actually be planting more than we're cutting down  on a global scale currently.
Australia is a terrible example too. In a country, no,  a continent, that size how could they possibly know those figures - statistics can say anything, and can be estimated and made up as far as anyone with an agenda wants...
with shitloads of cattle all over the show, but the rareity of actually finding them in that vast land of Australia - those figures to me ring bullshit. Humans rape the earth, even the aborigines purposely burned entire forests year after year untill the soil was useless and desertified long before white man turned up. And IMHO, tax is going to do sweet fuck all to stop the rapage - it will be spent on something completely irrelevant anyway.


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Anonymous #10

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #10525394 - 06/17/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

"Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay."

Shut the fuck up.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #10525426 - 06/17/09 06:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

"Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay."






:lol:


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #10525513 - 06/17/09 06:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #10 said:
"Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay."

Shut the fuck up.





blow me, why should i shut up? im not the dumb ass who is lying to the whole US. whats the matter truth too much for ya to take. and btw i dont even smoke, just pointing out how much of a BS'er he is. i could really care less if they charged 10 dollars for 1 cig.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #10525530 - 06/17/09 06:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Anonymous #6

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10525553 - 06/17/09 06:23 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

"Well I am lying, I raised the taxes on tacos. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200mil have to pay."





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Anonymous #10

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #10525592 - 06/17/09 06:27 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

You're an idiot.  That's why you should shut the fuck up.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #10525656 - 06/17/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

so how am i an idiot?? nothing i have said is wrong. sounds like your the idiot. 


"Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay.""Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay."


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #10525747 - 06/17/09 06:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLies.htm ; this website list all the lies he has told the american people.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #10525760 - 06/17/09 06:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

here is his lies he made during his campain

In After only two months in office, President Obama may have fallen short on a number of his campaign promises.

1: Sunlight Before Signing -- "When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as the president, you the public will have five days to look online and find out what's in it before I sign it," he said.

2: Capital gains tax elimination -- Just weeks prior to the election, Obama advisers Austan Goolsbee and Jason Furman told the Wall Street Journal that Obama planned tax cuts that included "the elimination of capital gains taxes for small businesses and start-ups."

3: New American jobs tax credit -- During his transition, Obama's promised to provide a $3,000 refundable tax credit to existing businesses for every additional full-time U.S. employee hired in 2009 and 2010.

4: Hiatus on 401(k) penalties -- In October 2008, Obama released his "Rescue Plan for the Middle-Class" in which he promised to allow financially distressed Americans to withdraw up to $10,000 from their 401(k) accounts and retirement savings without having to pay penalties. They would only pay income taxes on the amount.

5: No jobs for lobbyists -- "I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any other candidate in this race to take on lobbyists — and won. They have not funded my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president."

6: Earmark reform -- at the first presidential debate in Oxford, Miss., Obama declared, "[W]e need earmark reform. And when I'm president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely."

7: Bring troops home in 16 months -- Even as combat troops are brought home, Pentagon officials have said fresh units will continue deploying to Iraq.

8: Sign "Freedom of Choice Act" -- Obama expressed his support for the sweeping plan that would repeal all national and state regulations of abortion passed over the last 35 years.

9: $4,000 college credit -- Obama pledged to make college "affordable for all Americans" when he announced his American Opportunity Tax Credit.

10: Transparency -- On the White House website, the Obama administration claims it will be "the most open and transparent in history.


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Anonymous #11

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10526182 - 06/17/09 07:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

OP, you are an idiot to link Obama with the article about taxing of cow farts.

The possibility, yes possibility, exists for the EPA, (not Obama, the EPA) to require
permits on farmer's livestock that amount to a cow tax, however, this debate has
been going on for 2 yrs now, and its rooted in a 2007 SCOTUS decision Massachusetts v. EPA


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #10526304 - 06/17/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you sir are the idiot. he can overturn that if he chooses. yes that hasn't been passed yet, true. but if he allows it to pass its his fault. he is a liar and should be takin outback and shot in the face. well i guess i cant say its him as he is meirly a puppet for wallstreet.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #10526313 - 06/17/09 08:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you are right though i cant put that on him. not yet at least. maybe i shoulda just stated how he is fucking us over now. sorry for that miss information.


Edited by Anonymous (06/17/09 08:12 PM)


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Anonymous #3

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10527084 - 06/17/09 09:45 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

stfu, Ive seen many people talkin shit about obama. the truth is id rather have him in there then that dumb ass hick bush. bush was a fuckin child who was given a candy store and did what ever the fuck he wanted to.  obama is trying to change the country, Im tired of fuckin dying slowly in this peice of shit US. Hes trying to give middle class famlies etc a fighting chance. like most presidents not every thing he does is good, but its not all bad either. people can bitch and moan about how hes fucking this world and doing a terrible job, but I dont see them or you going to school, and running to be the next president. its one tuff ass job, and people who go in to change things find out its not as easy as they thought it was. theres bulllshit after bullshit that has to be had before it can be finalized and passed. obama does what he says or at least gets as close as possible to what he had in mind.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #10527096 - 06/17/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

what is he doing good for us?? name them. he is sending more troops over just like bush. hes lying just like bush. raising taxes. he is just a puppet, it doesnt matter who the president is they still work for higher powers. i bet he is a good person though, not saying that.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #10527119 - 06/17/09 09:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

he wants to force middle school and high school kids to serve for the gov.


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Anonymous #3

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10527437 - 06/17/09 10:48 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

heres a few, not my words by the way. im not realy political either, but I see change to the best it can be, if that douchbag mecain would have won or hillary clinton we would be in a worse mess...

"He has made a huge impact by making intelligent choices for most of his appointees
he has improved relations with most of the countries who felt slighted , abandoned or abused by the little Bush.

He is working hard on all fronts and has doctors, insurance companies and drug manufacturers willing to come to the table and make concessions even beofre getting there.

The economy is coming out of a very dangerous recession.

We are no longer torturing.

We are speaking with countries we didn't have relations with before he got in office.... countries who could hold the world hostage by developing nuclear weapons... they still work towards them but the ice is breaking.

the whole health care issue will probably be solved in the next year or so.

The military is standing down to a degree in Iraq (an illegal war and will be standing taller in Afganistan soon (the place we should have been in the first place.

Pakistan is finally doing something about militants.

Our relations with Russia are improving.

Muslims understand he is willing to hold a dialogue and thus are less insulted by our nations seeming arrogence under the baby Bush."


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Anonymous #12

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10528125 - 06/18/09 01:11 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hey OP (anon #1)

how did you feel about W?


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10528358 - 06/18/09 02:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #10 said:
"Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay."

Shut the fuck up.





blow me, why should i shut up? im not the dumb ass who is lying to the whole US. whats the matter truth too much for ya to take. and btw i dont even smoke, just pointing out how much of a BS'er he is. i could really care less if they charged 10 dollars for 1 cig.




Hey dumbshit, do you realize that there is a difference between income and tobacco tax? Seriously, hurry up and reach 9th grade so they can teach you some of this shit.


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Anonymous #7

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #10547258 - 06/21/09 12:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I don't see the point in comparing ruminant to monogastric. We evolved differently. because we eat different foods we have different digestive systems.




The comparison works because a ruminant animal ALSO has the stomach of a monogastric animal. The rumen is IN ADDITION. What this means is that they can still digest most of the foods a monogastric animal can, but WITHOUT producing massive amounts of methane because the rumen is not actively needed.

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Also:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090621/ap_on_re_us/us_burpless_cows


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10547632 - 06/21/09 01:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #10 said:
"Well he is lying, he raised the taxes on cigarettes. Which plenty of ppl who earn under 200k have to pay."

Shut the fuck up.





blow me, why should i shut up? im not the dumb ass who is lying to the whole US. whats the matter truth too much for ya to take. and btw i dont even smoke, just pointing out how much of a BS'er he is. i could really care less if they charged 10 dollars for 1 cig.




Hey dumbshit, do you realize that there is a difference between income and tobacco tax? Seriously, hurry up and reach 9th grade so they can teach you some of this shit.





its still a tax imposed to get money from people who make less than 200k. i love how you go the 9th grade route and just try to cut me down. you obviously dont know how much your being fucked behind your back. its ok, one day you will see. lol 9th grade.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10547790 - 06/21/09 01:57 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

It is a tax imposed on a product. Not everyone who makes less then 200k has to smoke and there are people who make over 200k who smoke. Therefore it is not a tax imposed on those who make less then 200k a year.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10547817 - 06/21/09 02:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i never said it was moron. i simply said this will also affect poeple who make less than 200k.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10549249 - 06/21/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

And the back peddling begins. God forbid anyone raise taxes. Ever. If they do, poor people are gonna die!


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Anonymous #13

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10549497 - 06/21/09 07:15 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLies.htm ; this website list all the lies he has told the american people.




the link didn't work, i'd really like it to, but it didn't. fuck obama, there's not one politician in washington that speaks for me, and there never will be, why? because i can't relate to the upper class elite and they don't relate have some kind of retrograde goggles that make them feel your everyday business,
its business as usual in washington and when you've got a democrat in the office its always meant more spending for a bigger government and its going to continue to mean that, so if you like the welfare state model welcome to heaven suck big brother's teet


Edited by Anonymous (06/21/09 07:18 PM)


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10553373 - 06/22/09 12:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
And the back peddling begins. God forbid anyone raise taxes. Ever. If they do, poor people are gonna die!





how was i back peddling exactly?  by re-telling him what i said.


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Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #10553390 - 06/22/09 12:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLies.htm?; this website list all the lies he has told the american people.




the link didn't work, i'd really like it to, but it didn't. fuck obama, there's not one politician in washington that speaks for me, and there never will be, why? because i can't relate to the upper class elite and they don't relate have some kind of retrograde goggles that make them feel your everyday business,
its business as usual in washington and when you've got a democrat in the office its always meant more spending for a bigger government and its going to continue to mean that, so if you like the welfare state model welcome to heaven suck big brother's teet





if you click on this http://www.theobamafile.com   then go down to where it says lies and click on that link. it then takes you to that page


Edited by Anonymous (06/22/09 12:31 PM)


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Anonymous #14

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #10566358 - 06/24/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

People are so fucking stupid. Read a fucking book dont base your argument on a youtube video. everyone agrees pollution is bad we've stopped arguing about it.

Cows should be grass fed. You should be paying more for beef. Food is cheap in america. Quit crying about safeway raising the price of your salisbury steak hardyman meal you fucking baby.

Worry about real problems.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #10566378 - 06/24/09 06:21 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

:congrats:


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #10566455 - 06/24/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
People are so fucking stupid. Read a fucking book dont base your argument on a youtube video. everyone agrees pollution is bad we've stopped arguing about it.

Cows should be grass fed. You should be paying more for beef. Food is cheap in america. Quit crying about safeway raising the price of your salisbury steak hardyman meal you fucking baby.

Worry about real problems.





LOL!! agreed. im just more upset that they tell your they are gonna lower rates and all that blah blah and they go against it. Its like cmon we know your just talking shit so be the better man and tell the truth. thats what i think. I got no problem paying more for some free range beef and im glad they raised taxes on cig. those things are bad for ya anyways. We all know that the president is nothing more than a scape goat, just wish he would try to stand up and act on his own. and btw i think those nasty ass tv dinners use the left over beef and ground them to patties for those god for saking shit frozen dinners.


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Anonymous #4

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10566493 - 06/24/09 06:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

He's not a scapegoat, but is in fact the leader of the Executive Branch. Oh, except I forgot the the bundleberry group or whatever the fuck they're called control the whole world.


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Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #10566506 - 06/24/09 06:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yes he is a scapegoeat. hes the one who answers to the media, gets the blame when something goes wrong. that would def make him a scapegoat. just like bush became the scapegoat when the hurricane hit. remember kayne west was all like " Bush does not care about black people".  lol he is so fucking stupid its not even funny.  obama is getting slandered because of the bill that he helped get pass. hell all he did was make a speech, but its still his fault since hes the man...


Edited by Anonymous (06/24/09 06:49 PM)


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Anonymous #15

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10567090 - 06/24/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
he wants to force middle school and high school kids to serve for the gov.




False.

He wants to make community service a requirement for graduation. Community service can be anything you want, doesn't have to be serving the government.


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #10567166 - 06/24/09 08:56 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
he wants to force middle school and high school kids to serve for the gov.




False.

He wants to make community service a requirement for graduation. Community service can be anything you want, doesn't have to be serving the government.




that would be forcing a young person to work for thier local gov. or they cant grad.  its the same thing, why should you have to do community service to get an education. its not a class. which is all you should be taking in school


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Anonymous #1

Re: OBAMA IS SCREWING AMERICA IN THE BUTT [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10567172 - 06/24/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

even though they may have done all required classes they will get help back because of that.  complete bullshit.  you goto school to learn not pick up trash on the side of the highway.


Edited by Anonymous (06/24/09 08:57 PM)


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