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    #10514681 - 06/16/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10514748 - 06/16/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Can't wait to check it out bro:thumbup:


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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: Humbled]
    #10519784 - 06/16/09 09:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

well got 16 jars pc'd and already ran into some problems. the damn polyfill pushes through my wholes that were made in the jar! so the jar the i tried nocing(GT and GC) up will just be recooked, hope this doesnt cause a problem. so with all the other jars that were pcooked already i just got some silicone and put it around the edges of the polyfill and im hoping that will prevent this from happening but must wait till it dries tomorrow to try inoculating again :mad:
i was goin to make some really nice qt. jars with rubber stoppers for inoculating but dollar general doesnt sell the qt. jars anymore so ill just save them for next time i see some qt.s. anyways heres some pic.s of progress so far as promised.-


thanks for looking and wish me luck :wink:

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10520107 - 06/16/09 10:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

o yeah and the 8 jars that were finished pressure cooking yesterday seem to have a little water build up in the bottom nothing extreme heres a pic tell me if you think i should just cook up some more WBS so as not to waste my spores.-(sorry bout the dbl post)
again its not much water looks more like mushy seed then water really. let me know what you think - thanks M.H

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10520113 - 06/16/09 10:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

looks bad dude, if that was rye(i've never worked with wbs) it would be way too wet and colonize very very slow if it did

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10520122 - 06/16/09 10:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

when my rye does that its because the jars were not at field capacity when i loaded them, let the wbs dry a little more and make sure h2o isnt getting inside during your pc, either put aluminum foil on top or water proof tape over holes.



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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10520141 - 06/16/09 10:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

think? if i move the seed away from glass looks like alot is water stains but i really dont want to test it ya know. only one that that bad but all seem a little more moist then normally done. any advise from people that have used WBS

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10520145 - 06/16/09 10:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i would scrap em.  looks like alot of burst grains.  use doc's wbs tek.  works great for me!

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: shagnito]
    #10520190 - 06/16/09 10:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah first time this has happened to me, guess i just didnt drain well enough this time, will be getting more seed tomorrow and redoing ALL jars just to be safe.
thanks for your opinions.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10520231 - 06/16/09 10:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

happy :mushroom2: =)

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: shagnito]
    #10521004 - 06/17/09 12:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The first question i have for you is how long or did you boil your grain before you loaded it in to the jars for the PC.

From the pic i saw they were already burst before you loaded your jars. Then what happened is that they were engorged even more from the PC, and the end result is a jar of MUSH....which is USELESS !!

IMO .. try wild bird seed without the corn..i have found that the WBS with out corn tends to colonize faster and with less problems.


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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: mycomaximus]
    #10521110 - 06/17/09 01:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Yup toss that shit bro.

WBS is mostly a pain IMO RYE is the way to go. Soak overnight with Gypsum, bring to a boil, drain, toss, PC.  AAaannndd GO!

Also, I have never used Polyfill for that. I have always used those Round Fabric Band- Aids to seal the Inoculation hole. Works well for me-

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: Humbled]
    #10522954 - 06/17/09 10:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

MM i tryed something i read that was clearly a bs person on here posting miss information. never goin to do that again :wink: and with the corn i only had a dollar at the time so it was the only bag i could afford corn is a dragg...

Psil, i would love to use rye but its not available where i live which sucks.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10522973 - 06/17/09 10:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

do you have a vitamin cottage?

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10523009 - 06/17/09 10:53 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

not sure what that is, ive been to every fuckin nursery in my town though with no luck

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10523032 - 06/17/09 11:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

its a health food store, if your in the us, they have it in their bulk section


you dont find rye at a nursery, brah

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10523048 - 06/17/09 11:05 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

really i asked many people where i would find it and thats were they directed me wtf. i swear if i find rye here im gana shit my pants ive looked everywhere. ill have to search for one of these vitamin cottages

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10523055 - 06/17/09 11:06 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

you have it dude, lots of people give bad info....make sure its organic rye seed. you can find it

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10523091 - 06/17/09 11:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah what with people that dont know what theyre talking about giving others bad info, im sure there is someone out there right now on here that has been told the wrong thing by some bump ass shroomery member and because of it have had a 100% contamination rate haha its ridiculous

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10523131 - 06/17/09 11:28 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

hahah well thanks john within 1 minute of research i have found a vitamin cottage within a few miles from my house. NO MORE WBS ! im stoked will use the seed ive soaked over night cause i hate to waste it, only gana fill about 6 maybe 8 jars of 24 so ill be able to compare as well. thanks again man big help with the rye :gethigh:

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10523261 - 06/17/09 12:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

no problem dude, its in their bulk section should be under 2 dollars a bag, one bag will do 5to8(i dont remember reallly) pint jars


for rye i soak with distilled water for 12hr(if you do much longer they will sprout and be useless. you do this so the endospore open up), then simmer distilled water(that mean when bubble start to form on the sides of your cooking thing), then pour over rye in a strainer. then let drain and fill jars, pc for 60mins.....thats what i do and i dont get contamination, also i do two holes in the tops of my jars, one i seal with clear silicon(inoculation point) the other i cover with microspore tape(3m called micropore tape) or band-aids(they come sterile)

hope it helps.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: johnwayne]
    #10523347 - 06/17/09 12:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Call around to your local health food stores, and find out if any are a "co-op".  I pay $1.19 per pound for rye berries, and you get a discount if you join the co-op.  They'll even special order large quantities for you if you want to stock up.  50lbs cost me about $50.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10523500 - 06/17/09 12:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Mako...here is an idea i just had...

do you have a colander for straining spaghetti..i noticed that the millet and canary seed will pass through if not careful...

you might try and use this to your advantage and run the water with a screen under it to catch the WBS you want to use....a bit more time consuming but worth a try ..hope you can locate some WBS with out corn, good luck brah


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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: mycomaximus]
    #10523617 - 06/17/09 01:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the advice everyone
will be goin to get rye tomorrow at that place i found hope they got what i need

MM that a good idea i was actually getting alot of millet falling through my strainer thats a good idea.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10538670 - 06/19/09 06:06 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

just noc.d up my 7 new WBS jars, money issues right now so gotta wait like a week till i can go get the rye and make up the other 17. will take pics in 3 days and see the activity in the WBS jars :mushroom2:
thanks for looking - M.H.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10600396 - 06/30/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

pic updates on wbs jars in morning. havnt had a chance to go get any rye yet, i know im slackin but soon ill get it :gethigh:

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10600506 - 06/30/09 09:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Don't give up!

I would love an outdoor bed, but the climate around here isn't ideal.


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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: TheMushaman]
    #10609641 - 07/02/09 12:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

jar#1 is hasnt had any growth, im starting to wonder if i forgot to noc this one haha-

jar#2-

jar#3-

jar#4-

jar#5-

jar#6-

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10609667 - 07/02/09 12:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

sorry for the shitty quality, cameras batteries died so had to use phone. these 7 are noc.d with GT to WBS. Will be getting the Rye and making more jars as well as finding a spot and digging my 1st bed sometime before next weekend...

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10630488 - 07/06/09 01:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

well ill id give it a day, two tops before full colonization of the first 6 wbs(GT)jars. so tomorrow ill be going to pick out the place were ill be making my first outdoor bed:gethigh:. will update pics with material used in the bed, the making of the bed and pics of the finished bed all ready for nature to do its thang...

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: makohaze]
    #10630586 - 07/06/09 02:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

looks good, i never could get WBS to colonize with out problems.

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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: whiteboi4202]
    #10630608 - 07/06/09 02:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

looking promising so far. i think as long as you get the moisture content right you should be fine as long as you pc.


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Re: * MakoHaze's 1st outdoor grow * [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10630666 - 07/06/09 02:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

just to make sure everyone agrees on the fact that i shouldnt need worry about sterilizing anything before transferring my grain to the outdoors? i mean makes sense to me just getting the extra input...

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