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RogerRabbit
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: ohmatic]
#10498818 - 06/13/09 09:02 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had very poor results from jars that were fully colonized for more than a month. I'm not sure how the mold gets in there but it does. Best is to spawn your grains to bulk within a week of full colonization. RR
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JSshroom
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: RogerRabbit]
#10500994 - 06/13/09 06:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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spawn question for bags. when it looks fully colonized I thought you were supposed to leave it for 2-3 days for full internal colonization? Or when its all white and tough on the outside is it good to go?
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CH HELL
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: JSshroom]
#10501016 - 06/13/09 07:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always go 1 day thats it. CH
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JSshroom
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: CH HELL]
#10526515 - 06/17/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright here is a spawn related question. I have been using older spawn from time to time and will eliminate that from my practices. I still do MS until I get an area setup to do the other work. almost got flowhood built.
I did some logs that took forever to fruit then when they did they hardly did at all. I just looked at it as a genetic issue. Did using older spawn also effect the Myceliums ability to fruit.
Also when I do all my petri dishes and try out different sectored strains, is there going to be an issue between just doing lots of manure trays vs using straw. Would the strains I find to be good producers on manure perform differently on only straw. My manure trays are a jumble of different ingredients including a little straw.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: JSshroom]
#10527493 - 06/17/09 10:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
JSshroom said: Would the strains I find to be good producers on manure perform differently on only straw.
Some believe that, but my experience hasn't proved it true with cubensis. With shiitake strains, one that fruits well on hardwood logs, might not even pin on sawdust or straw. Cubes just seem to want to fruit no matter what you give them for a substrate. RR
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JSshroom
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: RogerRabbit]
#10527820 - 06/18/09 12:04 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah that makes sense. I guess I would just have to see what works well on manure then keep record of that and do a log and see what it does on a BE scale.
was still wondering about the old spawn effecting fruiting q?
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Re: Straw Logs keep going green??? help [Re: Sapient]
#10570603 - 06/25/09 12:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree 100% with you on this one - his straw is not being pasteurized properly. I have always found EVERY problem when dealing with straw has stemmed from proper pastureization temperatures. Or inconsistent temps - IE, not enough water in the vessel being used to keep the core of the straw at the correct temperature. In all my years of growing - if a spawn jar is white and you shake it and it turns white again in 24-36 hours then there is very little chance the spawn is contaminated.
Properly treated straw is pretty resilient.
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