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OfflineEatAbortstoo
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Deer shit
    #1049160 - 11/13/02 01:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Does deer poo work well, theres a guy a couple houses down from me who has like 30 pet deer, theres also a cattle farmer and an old lady who has horses too, that lives near me, i was thinking bout taking all three kinds and mixin em, any other suggestions out there?


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Re: Deer shit [Re: EatAbortstoo]
    #1049169 - 11/13/02 01:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

you can use almost any poo from a herbivore.


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Re: Deer shit [Re: EatAbortstoo]
    #1049182 - 11/13/02 01:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

A mix & match could be questionable. I would go with the horse poo (alone), if it is aged & dry. That is good stuff. 6T


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Re: Deer shit [Re: EatAbortstoo]
    #1049371 - 11/13/02 02:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Boy, mushrooms and deer, quite possibly my two favorite things in life... I'm glad you brought this up eatabortstoo.

The answer is, it depends on what kind of deer it is.

Whitetail and blacktail deer are much more wild, active animals than your typical horse or cow. Because of their active lifestyle, these two types of deer tend to use up more of the nutrients in their food than do less active animals such as cows and horses. The deer you are referring to are on a farm, therefore are probably less active than wild deer, which means their body will use less of their food than wild deer.

This means that whitetail and blacktail poo will not be as nutritious a meal for your mushrooms as would horse or cow poo. Since they are farmed deer, it will have a higher nutrient content than wild deer, but it will still be well below the quality of horse or cow poo. Also, you should consider what types of foods the farm deer are eating. Deer easily digest and metabolise fruits and vegetables, therefore if the deer are corn fed or have a high fruit diet such as apples you are even less likely to have sufficient nutrients in the poo. Deer, like dogs, wolves, bears, etc do not digest and metabolise grains very well. If you've ever gone hunting and had the misfortunate of shooting or cutting the deer's stomach, you will notice a rancid sloppy mess of goo, half digested corn, and whole blades of grass and grains. This is indication that deer use up corn and fruits much more easily than grasses and grains. So if your deer are eating a lot of rye, wheat, and other grasses it may prove successful to use their poo.

Lastly, you should be observant of when the poo is collected. Spring and early Summer would be the best time to collect their poo. Late Summer and Fall deer begin to eat and digest more in order to gain the extra fat layer and thicker coat needed to survive the harsh winter conditions. Bucks particularly eat more in order to bulk up and grow their racks to impress females and fight off other buck competitors during rut, which extends approx. from about October to January. Since deer use more of the food they are eating before and during rut, this is not a good time to collect their poo.

Mule deer, on the other hand, live and behave much more like cows. They are slow moving, less intelligent, somewhat clumsy, inactive deer. Most of the time you see mule deer grazing in pastures of wheat or rye or other grasses. While mule deer will eat fruits and vegetables, their diet consists mostly of grains and grasses, which is all that is required to sustain their lifestyle. Although their bodies are more adapted to digesting grains, many of the nutrients are not used since they are much less active and in general do not have to face the harsh winters as whitetail do. They do however digest and metabolise grains much better than cows and horses, therefore cows and horses will still have more nutrients. If the farmed mule deer are not very active and are eating many diverse grains, it may prove successful. If they are active and/or on a diet of one type of food, it probably won't work out so well.

Either way, it's best to go with horse poo or cow poo. Deer poo is much less likely to contain the necessary nutrients. There are many deer that live in the pines around my house and graze in my yard every day and night, and are always leaving their poo in my yard. I have seen different strains of mushrooms growing from the deer poo, however it is far less frequent than the hundred or so other strains that grow around my house, and when they do grow from deer poo they are always small and weak looking in comparison to other locations they grow in my yard and they are very short lived, usually dying and disappearing within 24 to 48 hours, while the others will last for several days to weeks, of the same strain.

To sum it up, go with the horse or cow poo, not the deer poo.


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Re: Deer shit [Re: InMyVersion]
    #1049570 - 11/13/02 03:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This man has a point. Oh yea I also hear you can use elephant and buffalo poo, is that right?


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Re: Deer shit [Re: Shrooms4e]
    #1049600 - 11/13/02 04:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nice scale dood...  been lookin for one of those cheap  :wink:


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