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The age of enlightenment
#10470918 - 06/08/09 01:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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For those of you that are conscious
Now days, the people have no real spiritual guidance. It is instead replaced with churches, which do a better job at subverting than guiding.
It seems the only real spiritual guidance we can look back to is our childhood, and thats only in memories.
Any real knowledge or spiritual progression, and secrets, are held by societies that will not share the secrets, so we have a human race that is in the dark, lost trying to find the way.
All of this reminds me of Terence Mckenna talking about time repeating itself, and in the last 20 years, 2000 years would be packed into it.
So...Are we about to come out of the dark ages, just now arriving at the Renaissance. Are we arriving at a new age of knowledge and feeling, where it is no longer hidden, it is rather shared and not oppressed?
Edited by TeamAmerica (06/08/09 09:22 PM)
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: TeamAmerica]
#10471617 - 06/08/09 03:10 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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So...Are we about to come out of the dark ages, just now arriving at the Renaissance. Are we arriving at a new age of knowledge and feeling, where it is no longer hidden, it is rather shared and not oppressed?
Seems to be the plan
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: jivJaN]
#10481289 - 06/10/09 07:01 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have we not always been in now? Not always been in development?
The tides are everflowing - we continue to ride on the waves, trying to orientate ourselves of where we are in the sea, instead of flowing along.
The age of enlightenment is now, it is eternal.
"New" always appears as new, I assume
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Edited by Fisherman (06/10/09 07:02 AM)
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: Fisherman]
#10481403 - 06/10/09 08:08 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea the idea of McKenna's Time Wave Zero makes a lot of sense to my nowadays. David Wilcock has described this same idea, that the frequency of crazy world events are speeding up towards 2012. This is why human history can look so unprogressive for thousands of years - and then look at all we have accomplished in the past 50! And with the advent of the internet is just the past 15 or so. We definitely have some strange times ahead of us - it is truly an honor to have been incarnated during this time.
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: Fisherman]
#10481714 - 06/10/09 09:52 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fisherman said: Have we not always been in now? Not always been in development?
The tides are everflowing - we continue to ride on the waves, trying to orientate ourselves of where we are in the sea, instead of flowing along.
The age of enlightenment is now, it is eternal.
"New" always appears as new, I assume 
If we are always in the wave, then the current will get stronger, depending on certain forces larger than we are.
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: TeamAmerica]
#10481892 - 06/10/09 10:35 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why do you speak for others' spirits? I find that a difficult topic to broach, and bold to claim others as spiritually lost. Is the spirit so forgettable, so powerless, that it holds no influence in our lives? Bah humbug.
If the spirit is individual, then where is it being guided to? And how can you ever possibly know the best way to guide an individual spirit to this unknown destination? Spirit A may enjoy the company of despair, and finds the most spiritual growth in the darkest places. Spirit B may enjoy the companionship of nature. Enjoying all the beauty and mystery that it holds, and through that appreciation, growing. Who the hell could say what will work? The idea of having a set guide just sounds like 'your spirit should be like mine'.
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If the spirit is universal, then the idea of guidance seems equally silly. The spirit itself guiding itself to where it already is and always will be. It would be guiding itself nowhere. And to guide itself nowhere, it could use any form of guidance it wanted, up to and including no guidance at all. The same effect is achieved, it is still where it is.
P.S. I'm just being particularly difficult these days. Take it with a grain of salt, and know that I agree with some of what you're saying. I like the idea of knowledge from around the world, spiritual guidance in all forms, and thought bouncing like this all at our fingertips, being part of an emergence of a new age.
I just don't agree that spirituality can be lost. And just because you don't agree with the way that spirituality manifests, lends no support in my eyes to the idea of it being lost.
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: TeamAmerica]
#10482659 - 06/10/09 01:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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TeamAmerica said: For those of you that are conscious
Now days, the people have no real spiritual guidance. It is instead replaced with churches, which do a better job at subverting than guiding.
It seems the only real spiritual guidance we can look back to is our childhood, and thats only in memories.
Any real knowledge or spiritual progression, and secrets, are held by societies that will not share the secrets, so we have a human race that is in the dark, lost trying to find the way.
All of this reminds me of Terence Mckenna talking about time repeating itself, and in the last 20 years, 2000 years would be packed into it.
So...Are we about to come out of the dark ages, just now arriving at the Renaissance. Are we arriving at a new age of knowledge and feeling, where it is no longer hidden, it is rather shared and not oppressed?
In actuality, this is not the case. Sure, as a collective, the human race seems to be "in the dark". But "truth" is always available to those who wish to find it. There are no secret societies that have some ultimate knowledge about the universe that they wish to remain hidden for their own malevolent agenda. In turn, there is no darkness that cannot be penetrated by light. Seek and ye shall find, knowledge and wisdom are always available to the penetrating and inquisitive mind. I used to feel the same, until I actually looked into these "societies" and made the choice to participate in the order. There are mysteries that must guarded from the profane, so is the way of the world, but they are not held secret by any means from those who truly seek wisdom. There will come a time when all of mankind will know truth (and remember, truth is subjective expression) but this will not come from any type of divine intervention, stellar event, savior or any other outside influence that 2012 promoters love to spew about. Man has to take responsibility for his own actions, and his imprint upon the world, not to expect some divine miracle to change everything for him. We all play our roles in creating the objective reality that we live in, for that which is within is also that which is without.
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#10483164 - 06/10/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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it is truly an honor to have been incarnated during this time.
Good words my friend. Gratitude.
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: TeamAmerica]
#10483523 - 06/10/09 04:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for that post kickle, always love a heads up 
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TeamAmerica said:
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Fisherman said: Have we not always been in now? Not always been in development?
The tides are everflowing - we continue to ride on the waves, trying to orientate ourselves of where we are in the sea, instead of flowing along.
The age of enlightenment is now, it is eternal.
"New" always appears as new, I assume 
If we are always in the wave, then the current will get stronger, depending on certain forces larger than we are.

Hmm, the current will get stronger? I think it will just "change", as always. We just have to remember that the waters are made up of our perception.
We just percieve "it" as getting stronger, but "it" has always been as "it" is, since "it" simply always is.
I am merly here to offer aid and gain wisdom, even though my post count be low
Let us flow along for all eternity, hand in hand, sharing our united light 
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it is truly an honor to have been incarnated during this time.
Good words my friend. Gratitude.
But would any spirit incarnating not have been able to be honored to be at their time? "Here, now, before, ahead of us"?
Are you "honored" of being incarnated here or are you simply here? 
The eternal is eternal, we wander in beautiful chaos.
Edited by Fisherman (06/10/09 05:13 PM)
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Re: The age of enlightenment [Re: satyr]
#10484571 - 06/10/09 07:37 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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satyr said:
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TeamAmerica said: For those of you that are conscious
Now days, the people have no real spiritual guidance. It is instead replaced with churches, which do a better job at subverting than guiding.
It seems the only real spiritual guidance we can look back to is our childhood, and thats only in memories.
Any real knowledge or spiritual progression, and secrets, are held by societies that will not share the secrets, so we have a human race that is in the dark, lost trying to find the way.
All of this reminds me of Terence Mckenna talking about time repeating itself, and in the last 20 years, 2000 years would be packed into it.
So...Are we about to come out of the dark ages, just now arriving at the Renaissance. Are we arriving at a new age of knowledge and feeling, where it is no longer hidden, it is rather shared and not oppressed?
In actuality, this is not the case. Sure, as a collective, the human race seems to be "in the dark". But "truth" is always available to those who wish to find it. There are no secret societies that have some ultimate knowledge about the universe that they wish to remain hidden for their own malevolent agenda. In turn, there is no darkness that cannot be penetrated by light. Seek and ye shall find, knowledge and wisdom are always available to the penetrating and inquisitive mind. I used to feel the same, until I actually looked into these "societies" and made the choice to participate in the order. There are mysteries that must guarded from the profane, so is the way of the world, but they are not held secret by any means from those who truly seek wisdom. There will come a time when all of mankind will know truth (and remember, truth is subjective expression) but this will not come from any type of divine intervention, stellar event, savior or any other outside influence that 2012 promoters love to spew about. Man has to take responsibility for his own actions, and his imprint upon the world, not to expect some divine miracle to change everything for him. We all play our roles in creating the objective reality that we live in, for that which is within is also that which is without.
Man is lost...goodluck
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