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Offlineabeam
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Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields?
    #1048411 - 11/13/02 01:27 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I looked around but couldn't find out exactly what i was looking for. I know you can do case straight birdseed and that people suggest using it to spawn hay or another bulk substrate, saying that it increases yields. Does it increase yields because there is more substrate or because hay is actually more beneficial to mushrooom growth?
What I really want to know is would my friend's pet monkey get better yields from using as much birdseed as it would hay. It has only a small amout of room in his cage and doesn't mind the extra $.20 a lb.

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OfflineMsPacMan
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: abeam]
    #1048434 - 11/13/02 01:33 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

bird seed sucks. its very hard to keep the moisture content right. i'm trying my last attempt with it now. but i have never had any luck with it so i can't tell you the yeilds. its better to live and learn, do it yourself. good luck.
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OfflineSkikid16
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: abeam]
    #1048490 - 11/13/02 01:57 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I found this picture today on sporeworks website.
Its Amazonian strain on cased millet, thats all the caption said.

http://www.sporeworks.com/gal2/PESamazon01.jpg


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1048499 - 11/13/02 02:03 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I LOVE WBS. Try it like this.

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6T WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method.

WBS consists primarily of white millet. It is often a combination of white & red millet - with a small percentage of sunflower seeds and sometimes tiny amounts of crushed corn. Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable.

You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. For instance, PetsMart has 40 pound bags for around $9.

Simply place whatever quantity you intend to use in a plastic pot, tub or bucket. Bear in mind, dry seed will expand about 20 to 25% - after it absorbs its capacity of water. Add tap water & soak the seed overnight. A 8 to 12 hour soak is fine. Seed soaked longer will begin to ferment. But, is still usable after soaking 24 to 36 hours.

There is no need to remove any floating husks, or sunflower seeds. These add lignin ( a good thing) & do not harbor any more possible contams than does the millet. It is all going to get thoroughly sterilized - anyway.

Once soaked, simply rinse the seed very thoroughly in a colander, or strainer. Then allow it to drain - WELL. As in 30 or more minutes. If it is drips - one drop. It is not drained - WELL.

Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC.

PC at 15 pounds for a full 60 minutes. 90 minutes is better, if you have the time. Allow the PC pressure to drop to zero & let it cool a bit. Open while still hot & remove jars. The paper coffee filters will dry almost instantly, when the PC is opened. Tighten lids (if necessary), shake jars to insure there are no clumps of seed inside. Place jars inside the oven on a rack, to cool, overnight. External coffee filters simply add another layer of protection to the jars content.

Once cooled to room temperature, store in a clean cardboard box - until used. Using them sooner than later is preferable. Note: This method was done in an All American PC. Some brands with a weighted pressure system require more internal water & it may be advisable to also cover the coffee filters with tin foil- while PC'ing, so no excess boiling water gains entry into the jars. Simply remove the tinfoil when you remove the jars from the PC.

6T


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OfflineOn_the_Down-Low
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: abeam]
    #1048504 - 11/13/02 02:05 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

The virtue may lay in the simplicity.



WBS cased with coir. Believe it was anno.

Edited by Anno (11/13/02 02:18 AM)

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OfflineMsPacMan
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1048531 - 11/13/02 02:22 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

good grow! :shocked:

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OfflineStarspawn
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: abeam]
    #1048582 - 11/13/02 02:52 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

W/B/S is not a good substrate because it can't hold a lot of water.It works much better as spawn.Dung and straw should be used no matter how small your set up is.Even cakes should be mixed with bulk substrate,the extra week or so is well worth it.

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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: Starspawn]
    #1048590 - 11/13/02 02:55 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I agree. It works, but not as well as dung/straw and/or compost. 6T  :tongue:


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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: SixTango]
    #1048633 - 11/13/02 03:51 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Hey 6T i bet the raccoon feels the same.

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Offlineknurd
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: abeam]
    #1048737 - 11/13/02 06:27 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)



These were gowned on bird seed and brf and verm
and were cased with straight verm, and were quit potent.
I have seen very good results with cased bird seed.


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OfflineBruiser
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Re: Casing straight birdseed, what are the yields? [Re: abeam]
    #1048764 - 11/13/02 07:22 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

A friend had some great success with straight birdseed. The only problem would be that he got one, maybe 2 awesome flushes and then nothing. It's okay, but straw/poo are way better. They're not hard to do either. :smile:
-Bruiser 


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