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OfflineEpigallo
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Tibet's non-violence
    #10467591 - 06/07/09 07:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Despite not making a ton of progress since Tibet started their non-violent resistance against the Chinese, the Dalai Lama is optimistic because others outside of the conflict are sharing in a growing sympathy for the Tibetans. I think he has a point.

If you think about Isreal and Palestine, the people of both countries obviously both believe they are the ones being unfairly attacked. But you don't see a massive conglomeration of people wearing shirts that say Free Palestine, because two countries bombing the hell out of each other just doesn't evoke a very sympathetic audience towards a particular side.

So, even though they have been slaughtered and oppressed for 50 years, maybe non-violence is still the better approach.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10467779 - 06/07/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

good point


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10467870 - 06/07/09 08:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Did you ask the slaughtered and oppressed if they thought it was 'better'?


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10467890 - 06/07/09 08:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just guessing. What do you think?


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10468734 - 06/07/09 11:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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bradley said:
But you don't see a massive conglomeration of people wearing shirts that say Free Palestine, because two countries bombing the hell out of each other just doesn't evoke a very sympathetic audience towards a particular side.





Do you live in the U.S.? I see Free Palestine protests  (yes they have t-shirts) every week.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: learningtofly]
    #10469673 - 06/08/09 07:04 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I had no idea

Do they have free Israel T-shirts too?


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10469945 - 06/08/09 09:14 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

No, many people dislike Jews, and even more dislike Sionism. You see keffiehs everywhere here in France (but well, many ignore what they mean and use them because it looks good; it's just fashion).
They took "back" land basing themselves on religion.

However, the conflict is very complex and evolved through time.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Kukaracha]
    #10470251 - 06/08/09 11:03 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

From my experience people who are Jewish side with Israel, people of Middle Eastern descent will be for Palestine. Most others simply do not care. I myself do not even know what to think of it, after taking a few classes on the area I'm still at odds with myself. I think that overall it is just a shitty situation with no real right or wrong to it. Both sides are extremely ignorant of one another's position.

Non-violence may not make the most progress, but it accomplishes its goals everytime, to be the most humane.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Rocker232]
    #10470444 - 06/08/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

It may make the most progress, in comparison with Israel & Palestine. Time will tell.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10470716 - 06/08/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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It may make the most progress, in comparison with Israel & Palestine. Time will tell.




Well yes in comparison to that conflict, most definitely. If you were to travel into the future and tell me that they are still fighting in 100 years I would be not be surprised. Intervention on a massive scale needs to be taken, what the outcome should be, I do not know. What I do know is that its a perfect example of the world we live in where nationalism trumps all other problems.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10470736 - 06/08/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

bradley said:
Despite not making a ton of progress since Tibet started their non-violent resistance against the Chinese, the Dalai Lama is optimistic because others outside of the conflict are sharing in a growing sympathy for the Tibetans. I think he has a point.

If you think about Isreal and Palestine, the people of both countries obviously both believe they are the ones being unfairly attacked. But you don't see a massive conglomeration of people wearing shirts that say Free Palestine, because two countries bombing the hell out of each other just doesn't evoke a very sympathetic audience towards a particular side.

So, even though they have been slaughtered and oppressed for 50 years, maybe non-violence is still the better approach.





It's all China baby and it's going to stay that way. I think they keep all their long range missiles up there now.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Icelander]
    #10472229 - 06/08/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

China is not going to release Tibet.

Although a beloved New Age sycophant for most, for me the Dalai Lama is an emitic.

Non-violence is among most people, grounded on fear of violence. In Tibet it's let's be meek -- at this the world's superego, the (warlike) Western world, will be happy. The West will feel a) good about itself for caring for an annexed nation that they had no interest in annexing (because Tibet to USA is Hellenic Greece to Ancient Rome), b) thereby the West can feign moral temperance and c) the West can engage in a conflict where they will not have to engage with violence and will thus inevitably take the moral and ethical victory.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10473281 - 06/08/09 08:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup::peace:


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10474210 - 06/08/09 10:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The West doesn't really "care" for Tibet though; mostly just supports China's rule by doing big business with them. Do you mean the Dalai Lama makes you sick when you say he is an emetic? Not sure I understand that.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Epigallo]
    #10475633 - 06/09/09 04:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Pictures from mass demonstrations against violence in Tibet all over the Western World: http://images.google.se/images?q=demonstration%20for%20tibet&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:sv-SE:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=sv&tab=wi

The Dalai Lama's a con. The person beneath the Dali Lama I have no idea about.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10476361 - 06/09/09 10:26 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

He said he wasn't a buddha and he knew it. He's just a monk.:monkeydance:


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Icelander]
    #10476795 - 06/09/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Is monk a short form of monkey?


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10476987 - 06/09/09 12:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, we are primates and not more.


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Re: Tibet's non-violence [Re: Icelander]
    #10477007 - 06/09/09 12:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The key word is prime.


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