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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: littleapplemm]
#10475029 - 06/09/09 12:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Haha thats great!
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Spongiform
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: Noobey]
#10475634 - 06/09/09 04:09 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I tried a few pints myself early on. They ended up compacted and never fully colonized. I ended up cutting off the uncolonized portions after 2 months.
Those plastic containers colonize in about a week, give or take a day from LC.
5PP = Polypropylene, it won't melt in the PC. I've PC'd the one I have left several times and it's fine. I even ran it through my 75X recently, 90 mins @ 21psi and it came out fine.
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veda_sticks
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: guywiththegun]
#10475829 - 06/09/09 06:19 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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guywiththegun said: So why exactly all the opposition to pint jars? I've used them for a while now and I'm curious why they seem to be so hated/if I'm doing something wrong that I can do better.
whats your yeild per cake?
Ive never seen a pint cake perform as well as a half pint. You would think that twice as much substrate and moisture would produce twice as much per flush but form pint grows i have seen its not even close.
Its kind of weird because 1/4 pints are like that, you would expect a 1/4 pint cake to yeild half as much as a 1/4 pint, but ive seen 1/4 pints put out almost as much as 1/2 pints per flush. Probably get less flushes out of 1/4 pints though.
The problem with pints.
Long colinisation Prone to stalling Invitro pinning before full colinisation Moisture drains to the bottom
If your using plastic jars, they have an advantage of being able to break up the substrate kinda like grain jars. Need to try it, ive got a few 400ml plastic containers to give a shot
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MightyWhite
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: veda_sticks]
#10475939 - 06/09/09 07:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Everyone always bashes on pint cakes and says this n that about them... Ive had way better results from using pint cakes,colonization might take a few days longer,but Ive never been in a hurry anyways. Yeild has ALWAYS been superior to 1/2 pints and the mushrooms from pint cakes are usually decent sized,unlike 1/2 pints,wich seem to throw little tiny skinny stemmed mushrooms. I didnt have a camera at the time,so I have no pics to see,but I did a little experiment side by side between pints and 1/2 pints.....it was multispore inoculation,same strain (PF Redspore),in the same fruiting chamber (PMP),1 10cc syringe for the 5 pint cakes,1 10cc syringe for the 10 1/2 pint cakes. On 1 flush the pint cakes gave me 38 dry grams,the 1/2 pint put out 18 dry grams....so the results speak for itself. I cant be the only person who does better with pints? I would tell you to go ahead and use the pint jars and see for yourself,and if you dont like it and you feel you wasted a syringe,I will send you a print to start up another run at it.
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veda_sticks
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: MightyWhite]
#10476249 - 06/09/09 09:55 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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38 grams is horrible in terms of performance compared to 1/2 pint cakes. If your getting only 18 grams from half pint cakes somethings not right.
Let me refer to my favourite cake grow i have seen in a while
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9182856/fpart/1/vc/1
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First off I want thank all the mods and trusted cults. for spreading their knowledge across these forums. It has helped alot thru this learning process.
Now for some pics of my second Multispore PF tek grow with Pacific exotica spora hawaiian.
Info on grow:
spores - Pacific Exotica Spora Hawaiian / vendor - sporeworks
FC - shotgun, 4in perlite, 2ft 24w fluorescent light, mist 3-4 times a day, fan 6-8 times a day, a fan on LOW in the same room for most of the day
D&R'ed cakes after fully colonized and consolidation week
Rh going between 95-98/ temp slightly higher than the rooms temp
One cake is ready for harvest now.
These first pics are the initial pinset of my best cake and were taken 2 days ago. https://files.shroomery.org/files/08-45/583084465-100_0577.jpg
Ive seen cakes produce 80 grams wet on the first flush. Based on that, a pint cake should potentially give twice that, evenw ith not so great ginetics you adleast expect more than 38 grams
Skinny mushrooms mean lack of FAE.
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Noobey
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: MightyWhite]
#10476257 - 06/09/09 09:58 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mighty that makes me feel better lol! I just knocked up 10 glass pints and 4 quart plastic twist and locks.
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MightyWhite
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Re: I know PF Pint Jars dont work well but..... [Re: veda_sticks]
#10476622 - 06/09/09 11:21 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: 38 grams is horrible in terms of performance compared to 1/2 pint cakes. If your getting only 18 grams from half pint cakes somethings not right.
38 DRY grams Veda I dont think thats horrible by any means And 18 grams from 1/2 pint cakes....yes youre right,Im not doing something right....its using those worthless 1/2 pints! ......and who gives a shit about wet weight,at least I dont. I like dry shrooms.
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