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OfflineGreasehoot
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Large Scale, efficiency?
    #1045970 - 11/12/02 12:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yello, I am new to this board but I have been growing mushrooms for a few years
on and off.  I have always used the pf tek brf blah blah blah.  I have recently acquired 14 spore syringes of B+ and Ecuador.  Now, I've heard of casing, and even studied it a bit but I am not sure what the most effective way of growing is.
I am planning to innoculate about 140 jars and I will look after 70 and my friend will look after 70.  What I really want to know is should I case?  What's the best way to case with this many jars?  2-3 cake casings?  anyhoo, Ive always used perlite humidification is this best for casings?  basically I need someone to briefly outline the process I'll need to follow to get the most out of this operation.
Thanks!!!
GH :confused: 


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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1045991 - 11/12/02 12:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

MAN I THINK THAT ITS GOING TO GET REAL HOT IN HERE I AM OUT OF HERE, PEACE. I DONT THINK YOU WILL GET ANY DIRECT ANSWERS FROM HERE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SHROOMS YOU TRYING TO GROW, WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO HELP START YOUR LOCAL MUSHYS DEALER BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOME HELP WILL COME BUT BE WARNED YOU WILL SEE SOME FLAMES :cool: 


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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1045998 - 11/12/02 12:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: lost & buzzed]
    #1046004 - 11/12/02 12:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I`ll do this nicely before the nasty comments begin.
Go read the http://shroomery.org/forums/faq.php.
Once you`ve done that go and read the Grow-Log section.
And then once you`ve done that go and read more on casings because quite honestly if you`ve been growing for years you would have dispensed with cakes by now.


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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1046021 - 11/12/02 01:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If you want to grow that many shrooms and be a big time dealer or whatever fine. Just don't bring any heat to the boards by posting it here. You can ask questions and not say that you are doing 140 jars. Just be smart and don't talk about stuff like that. I don't want to see a lot of heat on these boards because a few jackasses asked questions about growing mass quantities of shrooms.

Now for the actual help.
It would be much easier to use just a dozen quart jars of grain and spawn it to some dung or straw. I wouldn't even bother doing that many cakes. PF cakes are not very good for casings IMO so i would definitely look into grain.

Just to restate: Please don't post stuff like that here man. We don't want any trouble for the shroomery so please use common sense.


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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1046058 - 11/12/02 01:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

14 syringes & you plan to innoc 140 jars. Hmmmmmm.

What size "jars"?

1 .... 10 or 12 cc syringe is effective for 5 quart jars.

I hope you have a big PC, like a 941 All American. Otherwise, you will be PC'ing forever................ if you're using some rinky dink 6 quart presto / mirro type PC.

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    #1046230 - 11/12/02 02:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

as far as "big time dealing" is concerned, I'm not interested in selling anything.
PERIOD.  Anyway, I didn't think that this was too much a "heaty" topic, I just wanted some pointers.  BTW I have been growing cakes for years, I learned from a friend and not the internet.  I had no idea what a casing was until recently.
I just recently got connected to the internet and am finding out alot of things I didn't know.  I thought my questions thru thouroughly, but apparently I must seek advice elsewhere where I am not considered a "heatbag"
I have seen other postings on here concening large scale shroom growing, and I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.  Apologies.
I will consider my questions @ great length next time before posting.  Remember, I'm new here and was only trying to get into discussions with people, perhaps I was a little too anxious.
Thanks for listening!  :frown: 


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Re: holy shit [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1046239 - 11/12/02 02:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

One hundred and forty frickin jars, damn buddie, and you are doing these all PF style, booooo. Do like New Name suggested, do grain. And why the hell would you need that many jars any ways? Oh well, not my business. Have fun, and don't tell ANYONE about this.


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Re: holy shit [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1046246 - 11/12/02 02:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method.

WBS consists primarily of white millet. It is often a combination of white & red millet - with a small percentage of sunflower seeds and sometimes tiny amounts of crushed corn. Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable.

You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. For instance, PetsMart has 40 pound bags for around $9.

Simply place whatever quantity you intend to use in a plastic pot, tub or bucket. Bear in mind, dry seed will expand about 20 to 25% - after it absorbs its capacity of water. Add tap water & soak the seed overnight. A 8 to 12 hour soak is fine. Seed soaked longer will begin to ferment. But, is still usable after soaking 24 to 36 hours.

There is no need to remove any floating husks, or sunflower seeds. These add lignin ( a good thing) & do not harbor any more possible contams than does the millet. It is all going to get thoroughly sterilized - anyway.

Once soaked, simply rinse the seed very thoroughly in a colander, or strainer. Then allow it to drain - WELL. As in 30 or more minutes. If it is drips - one drop. It is not drained - WELL.

Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC.

PC at 15 pounds for a full 60 minutes. 90 minutes is better, if you have the time. Allow the PC pressure to drop to zero & let it cool a bit. Open while still hot & remove jars. The paper coffee filters will dry almost instantly, when the PC is opened. Tighten lids (if necessary), shake jars to insure there are no clumps of seed inside. Place jars inside the oven on a rack, to cool, overnight. External coffee filters simply add another layer of protection to the jars content.

Once cooled to room temperature, store in a clean cardboard box - until used. Using them sooner than later is preferable. Note: This method was done in an All American PC. Some brands with a weighted pressure system require more internal water & it may be advisable to also cover the coffee filters with tin foil- while PC'ing, so no excess boiling water gains entry into the jars. Simply remove the tinfoil when you remove the jars from the PC.

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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1046308 - 11/12/02 03:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You've cultivated on and off for years but are new to these forums? You still use the PF tek? Even though you want to grow ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FUCKING JARS? what's that? a few pounds? why would you come here and ask about that shit? damn man... and you're not going to sell any? this is your second post. I personally have to say that i really think you're full of shit about one or all of the above. If you really want to grow bulk, don't go and grow out 140 jars... that's ridiculous. Use grain to spawn some poo and straw, and case that with 50/50+. You'll do fine... and shit man, don't sell it. You're one shady motherfucker... and don't come in here talking about 140 jars again please.


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    #1046327 - 11/12/02 03:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand what's so damn "shady" about my questions, did you even read what i wrote?  I learned how to grow from a friend, I didn't know that there were other ways to grow, I wasn't born a scientist...  Anyway, thanks to those of you who actually tried to help me despite my idiocy.  You have given me much to research and I will definitely put some more thought into my project.  I guess I really don't need that much mush at one time, again, I'm sorry about the infraction of the "rules"
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Re: Large Scale, efficiency? [Re: Greasehoot]
    #1046353 - 11/12/02 03:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'm gonna lock this thread because I can see where it's going.
If you have any more questions just pm me i can answer all your questions on this topic fairly well.


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