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Offline79towncar
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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: Stonehenge]
    #10483959 - 06/10/09 06:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

If you read my above post I said I don't know how to win... But we have to spin it in a way that we come out on top... If that means killing mass people on the other side then so be it... No spoils?? What do you think we are doing out there in the middle of the desert... There has to be some sort of benefit to us or else we wouldn't be there in the 1st place... If at the very least we're trying to establish an allie in the reason by trying to put in place a puppet government... I don't know how we win... But do you suggest we lose??? Do you suggest we admit to defeat and just walk??? The n in the future what if we have a real problem and need to address it?? Will other nations/terrorists expect us to invade for a short while and then leave... While I agree the conditions of these wars are not ideal I can't say we have to just abandon it... You do not know more then the people in power...

People think they know everything... I think nobody knows much of anything... The people in power know much more then us... And if they say that we have to invade this country or this group so be it... It's not about them being right or wrong it's about getting in line and doing what your told... That's what being a solider is... That's what being patriotic is... It's not about being the right thing... It's about supporting your government no matter what they do... Being an outsider or an opposer only provides problems... That's why people who play the game get ahead (politicians) and people who rebel don't get very far and end up camping out in the woods preparing for a "military state" that everybody knows will never happen...

People seem to forget that the wheels on the bus go round and round... If there is collapse or instability things go on anyway... You can either make the best of it... Or go live in the woods...

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10484248 - 06/10/09 06:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

God that was painful to read, how 'bout YOU DON'T LIKE IT??  MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU MISS YOUR FREEDOM!


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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: mr.bixby]
    #10485375 - 06/10/09 10:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Where did it say I didn't like it..

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10492126 - 06/12/09 12:32 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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So he only broke his promise twice and that's not so bad? Raids were 1 clinic on jan 23, 4 clinics in feb, and another again on 3-25

That's 6 clinics raided, you count 2 and say it's ok.




We have had no raids in a few months, with several thousand marijuana clinics operating.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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Merely disturbing? And you follow that with a rationalization about how all presidents suck. All presidents from the same demoblican party suck. Try a second party some time. I use to say third party but the first two have fused some time back.




Send me a PM when your second party has even a remote chance of winning.

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79towncar said: Yea but the thing about war is this... Once your in it... Your in it...




Bullshit!  We can quit any time.

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Now that we are in it and that's a fact we can't just "leave". If we do, it will make everything we did thus far (if anything) in vain...




Its already worse than in vain.  It can only go downhill from here.  The earlier we leave the less costs we incur.

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Now that we are in Afghanistan and Iraq we might as well take any spoil we can...




We deserve no spoils.  Also, there aren't any.

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Whether it be oil money whatever...




No stealing money or whatever.

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You can't just decide one day to "end" a war...




Interesting logic.  Sounds vaguely familiar.

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Also with all the instability in the region we have a very strategic war-time position in the area... It's important to have troops everywhere at all times...




So we can waste massive amounts of money doing absolutely nothing.  But we can kick someones ass at a moments notice.  Great.  That will really help us out the next time a vietnam style war comes around.

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To people thinking of doing harm they might think twice because they know we are close...




Those guys probably hang out with the guys who don't do drugs because they are illegal.

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But the fact of the matter is that we did... And now that we are there, we have to win... No matter what the costs...




Why?  At the end of the day, who really cares?

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How do we win?? I have no idea, I don't think anybody does... But one thing is for sure, we can't let any nation think we lost...




What are you worried about?  We have lost plenty of wars.  Not a big deal.

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But we have to spin it in a way that we come out on top... If that means killing mass people on the other side then so be it...




So its ok to kill lots of people to help spin our PR?

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There has to be some sort of benefit to us or else we wouldn't be there in the 1st place...




Votes?

"If at the very least we're trying to establish an allie in the reason by trying to put in place a puppet government..."

Yes, that always works out well for us.

"I don't know how we win... But do you suggest we lose???"

Yes.  Losing is better than the alternative (a continuous war). 

"Do you suggest we admit to defeat and just walk???"

Sounds better than the alternative at this point.

"The n in the future what if we have a real problem and need to address it??"

If in the future we have a problem, then we will fix it.  Fighting pointless wars now will not help us in the future.  In fact pointless wars are counterproductive and will only make things more difficult in the future.

"Will other nations/terrorists expect us to invade for a short while and then leave..."

Who cares what they expect?  Do we want them to expect us to treat them like we treat iraq?

"You do not know more then the people in power..."

The people in power are always the most clueless.  If history has taught us anything its that.

"The people in power know much more then us... "

Of course that is true.  That is why they guided us into these awesome wars.

If we continue to follow their logic they will guide us back out, just as gracefully!

"And if they say that we have to invade this country or this group so be it..."

Oh?  So we should just listen to our leaders?  Invade iraq?  No thinking is required, just go ahead and send the military.  Excellent decision making skills.  Just trust them, they seem to know whats best.

"It's not about them being right or wrong it's about getting in line and doing what your told... That's what being a solider is... That's what being patriotic is... It's not about being the right thing... It's about supporting your government no matter what they do..."

I pledge allegiance to the united states of america...

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10494099 - 06/12/09 12:47 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

HAHA Rock I understand what your saying... But it's idealistic thinking... Things don't work that way... We can't just get up and leave Iraq... It's not about right or wrong... It's about being in power and staying in power... We police the world... But only when there is benefit to us... Terrorism is just a facade.. What we are really doing in the middle east we will never know.. But I do have faith in my government... I do trust my government... I think they know much more then me or you and we should support them no matter what... If were committing war crimes then so be it... If we being liberators then so be it... Whatever we're doing I support it.. It don't matter if the war has purpose.. It's not about that... Also why don't we deserve spoils?? I don't understand that... Peaceful people will never get ahead... You have to stand on the person's head in front of you to get to the top of the line... The world is not peaceful... Ask all those kids in Sierra Leone who are missing arms if peaceful works... Ask Fidel Castro if being peaceful works...

To be in power you have to lie, cheat, steal and kill... Read The Prince by Machiavelli.. It's a good book about power and how to seize power...War is the only thing that keeps country's in-line... With-out flexing some muscles every so often people think your weak... Fear keeps people in line... If America is not feared then what next?? I know our foreign policy is alittle messed up... But that's just the way it is... The people who are in power only have one goal... That's to secure the future of this country and the people in it... Anybody else who is or who even may become a threat must be dealt with...

What does it actually cost us?? People cry about the economy and I laugh... The quality of life here in America is better then anywhere... If you think it's better somewhere else then move... I understand questioning government but why do you talk like you hate everything this country stands for?? Just because we killed some 3rd world nobodys... Come on... The war can cost as much money as it wants... There is nothing backing it anyway.. They are just imaginary numbers... You don't like taxes move to Delaware... They have much lower all around taxes... This war would end tomorrow if the people in Iraq and Afghanistan started playing ball and delivered us all the insurgents... This war would stop tomorrow if people in those country's would stop taking up arms against us in there country... Then people just need to conform to American policy and that's the bottom line...

I'm not trying to sound harsh... I like to debate... But bottom line is this.. I feel America is THE supreme world power... That's because I live here... I feel that everything we want should be ours... Not because that's the right way, but because that's the only way. I could care less about anybody who is not American... I don't care if our government wages purposeless wars against innocent people around the world... I will support that too if I have to... Bottom line is this I will support my people no matter what... Whether they are right, wrong, heroes, villains, gods or demons.. I will support my people unto death.. Because that is what being a Patriot is, that is what being part of a family is and that is what being American is...

Damn right I pledge allegiance to the flag... I love this country... I am a 1st generation American... My parents were not born here and I am glad I am American... My parents had it very hard... They came here to better the lives of me and my sister and brothers... We live like kings here... It's only possible here in this country... I think people take for granted... We have it great here... It's the best country on Earth by far...

Edited by 79towncar (06/12/09 12:55 PM)

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10497028 - 06/12/09 11:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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79towncar said:
but because that's the only way. I could care less about anybody who is not American... I don't care if our government wages purposeless wars against innocent people around the world... I will support that too if I have to... Bottom line is this I will support my people no matter what... Whether they are right, wrong, heroes, villains, gods or demons.. I will support my people unto death.. Because that is what being a Patriot is, that is what being part of a family is and that is what being American is...





I would attempt to unravel the clunking mass of shit you believe in, but I'd rather sum it up with a few key words - blind patriotism, conformity, narcissism?

Edited by blkjkrabbit (06/12/09 11:18 PM)

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #10497063 - 06/12/09 11:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't write this thread entirely because of anti-establishment sentiments, I wrote it also and probably more primarily to find solitude, to escape sub-conscious social ritual and pattern reinforcement/conformity/group think, and generally to avoid the mental cluster fuck of society at large. It is hard for me to want to carry on "normally" in a society that seems largely materially motivated, vain, and seems at odds with itself. I worry sometimes about the larger overreaching types of social influences and ideas that spread...old things like witch hunts and the like - just the stupidity and general ignorance of the average person is what scares me I think. I don't feel I'm smarter, just more protective of MY mind.

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #10498947 - 06/13/09 09:47 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Rabbit I can understand that.. I have a mind of my own too... I'm glad that we are able to say whatever we want... We both get to voice our opinions no matter who they offend or how right/wrong they are... I'm just glad I live in a country where that's aloud... Some people actually don't have this luxury at all.. I can understand why you would want to escape conformity, ritual and pattern... Some people are truly free spirited and make up there own way of life... I do sometimes envy that... But I also feel that very rarely do people stick to the way they are raised... I was raised differently then some Americans... I was raised with the belief that family is number one... More important then anything... I hold traditions from a different era...

My parents era... For being 21 I do see the differences with my parents and the generation of today... Alot of people want to be individuals, my little sister is one of them... I am more focused on preserving my family culture and our beliefs and traditions... I also like to add modern ideals... Like patriotism... My parents couldn't even begin to understand patriotism... They do somewhat but they laugh when I say I would give my life for America... To me preserving and making sure our country is on top of the world superceeds my personal ambitions... It's selfish to take everything we have for granted and then thumb your nose at the country that provided you with the best opportunities available on earth... If you ever seen the movie The Deer Hunter, at the end after they lost Christopher Walkin... They sing God Bless America...

There is nothing more selfless then service to your country... It's very charitable to risk your life so your countrymen can have a better one... I do believe in freedom of speech... I believe in making your own way, on your own... But at the end of the day you have to put yourself last... Whether it's for your country, family, religion or traditions... To me supporting your government no matter what is not taboo... I believe it's duty, it's honorable and charitable.. It's very easy to complain, it's very easy to not do something because you don't agree with it.. It's easy to complain about everything your government does and say that you hate the people in power... But it is also selfish...

It takes heart to be a solider.. It takes a sense of duty to agree to do something when you know what your doing is wrong.. It takes courage to fully trust in and turn yourself over to your government.. It's not glamorous but It's honorable.. It's like if your father killed somebody. Instead of calling the Police you help get rid of the body.. Even tho that's wrong it's just the way you have to be.. It's ok if you feel different.. But never ever should you look down upon or thing your better then somebody because they are for the cause.. No matter what the cause is.. Some people it's religion, some people it's family, some people it's the military and even in some cases it's gangs or organized crime... Some people just take part in things bigger then themselves no matter what the moral or legal consequences..

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10499014 - 06/13/09 10:08 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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blkjkrabbit said:
I didn't write this thread entirely because of anti-establishment sentiments, I wrote it also and probably more primarily to find solitude, to escape sub-conscious social ritual and pattern reinforcement/conformity/group think, and generally to avoid the mental cluster fuck of society at large. It is hard for me to want to carry on "normally" in a society that seems largely materially motivated, vain, and seems at odds with itself. I worry sometimes about the larger overreaching types of social influences and ideas that spread...old things like witch hunts and the like - just the stupidity and general ignorance of the average person is what scares me I think. I don't feel I'm smarter, just more protective of MY mind.




If you want to escape you can... Yes our society is largely motivated by material things, but so what? If your not motivated by such things then that works for you... But you shouldn't just not like society and the people because they like materialistic things.. If you don't want to carry on "normally" you don't have to.. There are other people who think like you... Nobody forces you to play by the rules... There are millions of people who don't play by the rules... Some people move to the beach and surf, some people create art for hobby or career, some people become homeless, some people traffic drugs and some people devote themselves to becoming a nun or priest... If you feel everybody around you is stupid then you should be glad... Because you can exploit that to your benefit... By wahtever means you want.. But what you should do is try and fill those people in on what your views are instead of calling the stupid..

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: Stonehenge]
    #10500734 - 06/13/09 05:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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has opposed ending the 2 wars we are in




lmao they arent wars if it was a war congress would need to call a vote and ALLOW it and say it was one, its an invasion/help/get the oil operation :P.

but im the person who believes that the U.S attacked it self just for a reason.

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there was two explosions in the basement




*please dont freak out... did this thread just get off topic :P


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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10500806 - 06/13/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm not trying to sound harsh... I like to debate... But bottom line is this.. I feel America is THE supreme world power... That's because I live here... I feel that everything we want should be ours... Not because that's the right way, but because that's the only way. I could care less about anybody who is not American... I don't care if our government wages purposeless wars against innocent people around the world... I will support that too if I have to... Bottom line is this I will support my people no matter what... Whether they are right, wrong, heroes, villains, gods or demons.. I will support my people unto death.. Because that is what being a Patriot is, that is what being part of a family is and that is what being American is...





i always wanted to know what they taught in the U.S school systems... do you believe i live in an igloo also?. those kids with no arms or legs would have there arms or legs if there was peace, how did peace make there arms and legs get blown off?.

to me i think your views are a little sadistic, how could you agree with someone who is committing murder?.

so if someone(an american/USian) killed there whole family either because there crazy or because he thought it was the right thing to do just so his neighbors would be intimidated by him and listen to him. you would back him up? you would get a gun and fight off the police and make sure he stay alive just because he is in the same country as you?.

yah the U.S has opportunities but so does canada, U.K, and any other NONE-3rd world country out there, just because you live there and you have a better life doesnt mean the people who "run" the country are necessarily right.

the only reason why i think the world doesnt tell the U.S to stop is because either the rest of the world knows the U.S is going to crumble sooner then later from financial melt down(which would be good because then we would be 3/4 free from the federal debt) or someone is going to nuke them because they pushed them over the edge.

you might be free to speak and do whatever you want but that doesnt mean there isnt someone out there that will make you pay for what you've done.


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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: R0ughHab1tz]
    #10505109 - 06/14/09 03:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I don't want any American killing another American. But if an American kills somebody innocent in another country I will turn a blind eye... To me you have to support your countrymen bottom line... Like I said before, it's not about being right... It's about supporting your own... The only reason why no other country tries to stop us in Iraq is because America is the number one power of the world... They don't want war with us... No country's army could handle ours... Just won't happen... America will never crumble... We might fall into a depression at worst, but we will never collapse as a nation...

If somebody nukes us were gonna nuke them right back... Also your Canadian?? If somebody nuked America they would back us in fighting whoever it was... America and Canada will always be allies... We have similar culture, both domocracy and share a very large boarder... Canada is basically a big American state... No army in the world matches ours technologically or strategically... We don't win hearts and minds but we win on the battlefield... We are slaughtering everybody in Afghanistan and Traq who takes arm against us... While I never think America will be at war with the UK or any other European country.. I do think Europe will support our foreign policy... Terrorism effects everyboby... The UK has had terrorist attacks just like us.. So has India, Russia and a ton of other countries... I don't understand why anybody would not support a war that is the front lines on terrorism...

The 9/11 conspiracy people are sooo disrespectful... How could somebody kill thousands of there own.. Also how could they do it without gettig caught?? Other politicians and countries would be going crazy... Those people are soo outrageous.. Bottom line is you have to support your country no matter what... I have some things I don't like about America... I do think everybody should have free health care, I wish taxes were lower, I do hate alot of big business Wal Mart type companies... But at the end of the day all of that is 2ndary... This war on terrorism is number 1 priority... The future of this nation is number one priority... Everything else is 2ndary... I just don't understand how someody could not support there country... It doesn't make sense... You don't know more then the people in power... If they say we need to invade this country or region I'm sure they have a good incentive as to why... Whether it's money or oil or power there IS a reason... Just because they lie as to why doesn't mean anything... If they say there's things to be done then you shouldn't protest because your not in a position to... You should just have trust and say "OK".

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10505365 - 06/14/09 04:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

79, that is a big bunch of bilge but no one will be able to get past the huge load of propaganda you have absorbed. G bush jr could have said the same thing and no one would have noticed the difference.

Once we are in we can't get out

Sure we can, we got out of vietnam, finally. It's that or go broke. Oooops, it's a little too late for that. Before we are 100% broke and can't borrow any more money i mean. Then we will get out and really be defeated. Then we will be looking up to uk and canada. Hell, we'll be looking up to vietnam and n korea.


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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10505511 - 06/14/09 04:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i guess i could argue back all day and prob alot of people can to.

but all i have to say is, is that i'm my own person if someone, either a leader or a homeless person on the street says we need to go over on that block/country over there and start killing people for some said reason i would tell them there crazy and there waisting there time...

i dont support things that i dont believe in. i dont think canada should have helped a greedy country, i mean if you want to go into a country for oil because you want it then go alone dont drag everyone else into it.

just like the "attack" on the U.S, why should i care?, just because your country is ally's with the leaders of my country doesnt mean i support this "terrorism" front page bullshit. yah when i was 14 i did believe that someone attacked them: i was in school at the time and you know what everyone said?.

you had it coming.

but then i looked for the other side of things, how the hell do 51 or more passengers of a plane just let "terrorists" with butter knives take over a plane? its really not logical.

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i guess i went a little to long again :P. but yah i support the things i believe in like legalizing natural plants and fungus. a free none gatekeeper internet.

things that would benefit me and the rest of the world... how about a no monetary(money) system? now that would be freedom :laugh:


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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: Stonehenge]
    #10505858 - 06/14/09 05:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
79, that is a big bunch of bilge but no one will be able to get past the huge load of propaganda you have absorbed. G bush jr could have said the same thing and no one would have noticed the difference.

Once we are in we can't get out

Sure we can, we got out of vietnam, finally. It's that or go broke. Oooops, it's a little too late for that. Before we are 100% broke and can't borrow any more money i mean. Then we will get out and really be defeated. Then we will be looking up to uk and canada. Hell, we'll be looking up to vietnam and n korea.



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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: R0ughHab1tz]
    #10505920 - 06/14/09 05:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not gonna get sucked into the 9/11 conspiracy shit on this forum... Bottom line I'm trying to make is when your country is trying to do something no matter if it is moral or right you don't oppose... You help in any way you can... It don't matter if we are killing people, stealing land or whatever you bite your tongue and wave a flag... I'm American and I will support whatever the people in power say.. And if 4 years later a new leader supports the exact opposite, then I will support that too... It's not about right or wrong, moral or evil... It's about being the same thing... You support your own no matter what... If a family member killed somebody innocent you don't call the police you help get rid of the body... Same thing goes for this... We here in America have it all... Some people appreciate that and others bitch about every little thing...

If you don't like your government then move! If you think we are in a stupid war then move! But when you constantly talk shit when your countrymen are dieing for a cause is evil... Even if the war is a lie you build on that lie... Even if the war kills innocent you still support it... You never admit guilt, defeat or wrong ever... You spin it any way you can to make yourself and your country look right, good, and on-top... Even if it is not true... It's not about being right or wrong... It's not about having an opinion... It's about getting in line and doing what your told to get ahead... You play the game to get ahead...

Life is about getting ahead... It's about how much, how big, how many and how often... In life you naturally try and get ahead.. You try and acquire more power and money.. Whether it's getting a raise or promotion to getting elected or seizing power.. You step on the man's head who is in front of you to get to the top of the line... You exploit any flaw in the system, or weakness in the opponent to get what you want... That's the true meaning of everything... The more power and money you have the more you can change things towards your view.. You can't change anything without 1st being in power...

So yes we're killing and maybe were lying about what we really want in the region.... But so what?? In the end there is something for us... Or in the end there is something for the people in power of us... Either way it's out of our control.. So you can play ball and try and improve your position, get rich or get elected... Or you can live in the woods, travel with the Ded or Phish and always complain and never actually do anything... Neither route is right or wrong... They are just different.. They appeal to a certain type of person... In the end you have to pick what you are... So if your not a war-like money-grubbing blood-sucking capitalist you have no right to complain about them.. Because you are not them... Turn your head and choose the other route... I don't complain about non participating, no interest in nothing, non functioning in society hippies... But I will exploit them for my benefit... Just like the people in power exploit everybody with drug laws...

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: 79towncar]
    #10516616 - 06/16/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Bottom line I'm trying to make is when your country is trying to do something no matter if it is moral or right you don't oppose... You help in any way you can... It don't matter if we are killing people, stealing land or whatever you bite your tongue and wave a flag...




I am not sure if you are trolling or you really believe that, but please quit typing the same thing over and over.

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Re: information on how to prepare for world chaos [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10517284 - 06/16/09 02:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, it's like listening to a speech by shrub for hours on end.


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