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pitcher plants in gh
    #10208812 - 04/21/09 05:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So I was just thinking... would small pitcher plant be a good means of controlling gnat populations in a GH? In my area I could only  do it during the summer, but as far as I know thats when the gnats rear their ugly heads. Any thoughts?


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #10208967 - 04/21/09 06:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cool idea, i have no idea if it would work or not... but it certainly would be worth a try. The problem that comes to mind is that (i think) pitcher plants use a scent reminiscent of rotting meat to attract insects... would the gnats be attracted to it?


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: InfiniteOhms]
    #10209073 - 04/21/09 06:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I believe they are attracted to the smell of rotting fungus... which is kinda like rotting meat. And the RH is high enough for them in the GH.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #10210464 - 04/21/09 09:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: InfiniteOhms]
    #10210810 - 04/21/09 10:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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cool idea, i have no idea if it would work or not... but it certainly would be worth a try. The problem that comes to mind is that (i think) pitcher plants use a scent reminiscent of rotting meat to attract insects... would the gnats be attracted to it?



Yeah, I was thinking about getting an insect eating plant for the gnats, but then I thought "don't the plants attract more insects to eat?" The pitcher plants (or some of them atleast) produce a nectar and a pattern similar to flowers that attract various insects. Traps and mosquito netting ftw...


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: Roger Fudd]
    #10211095 - 04/21/09 11:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Do the flies lay their eggs on the mushrooms or are they just there for a snack and to releive themselves ?

If you sold them, could your customer be finding maggot in the product ?

If so this would seem to be a very serious concern for a commercial grower.

I have seen sticky traps advertised that lure the flies in with violet light.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: Jef]
    #10211439 - 04/22/09 12:31 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yes... the customer could find maggots in their mushrooms... as I did. Grrrrrrr... so far though the mosquito netting has been doing an amazing job. Only one fungus gnat got in as far as I can tell. Tomorrow I will probably go pick up some sticky traps as well. The pitcher plant idea was kind of an afterthought... as I think I have already found my solution.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #10212476 - 04/22/09 08:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I had Drosera capensis (cape sundew) growing on my windowsill with some other plants and they effectively killed and ate many many fungus gnats. I have toyed with the idea of them in the gh.

I know lots of people have issues with plants in the gh with mushies, but I dont know if it woulod be a big problem...... It could be, but the only way to know is to try it.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #10433906 - 06/01/09 05:24 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I grow carnivorous plants and though I have yet to try it, I'd like to say they'd be great in the GH.... The main reason being, their ideal soil mixture is essentially a casing layer... I've have seen some cobweb on there before though, and they sit in standing water.  But I still will probably try it out soon.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: RedBeerd]
    #10434766 - 06/01/09 11:12 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Be careful of fungus gnats. Everytime i see carniverous plants at a green house the spagnum moss/soil has loads of gnats all over them.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: Grzyby]
    #10436260 - 06/01/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yellow sticky cards son!  The violet ones are for thrips. 

Fungus gnats lay their eggs in soil.  Putting a plant in the room might provide them a place to spawn.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: M.Reynolds]
    #10439341 - 06/02/09 01:23 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to agree with caricapapaya  and say that Sundew is probably a better bet.  They're more indiscriminate in what they catch.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: Grzyby]
    #10441615 - 06/02/09 02:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Be careful of fungus gnats. Everytime i see carniverous plants at a green house the spagnum moss/soil has loads of gnats all over them.




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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: M.Reynolds]
    #10442616 - 06/02/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Are you not considdering the alternative of using the gnat's natural enemy ladybugs to help out with the problem? I have never heard if it's been a success for people on mushrooms but organic plant growers swear by it for getting rid of gnats. I have heard they don't eat the plants, but am unsure as to if they will eat mushrooms.


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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: ScavengerType]
    #10445815 - 06/03/09 02:42 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Ehm, Ladybugs? They crawl around on plants, eating only aphids, definitely not interested in fungus gnats at all.

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Re: pitcher plants in gh [Re: Mycelio]
    #10446116 - 06/03/09 05:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

experienced growers have said they eat gnats from plants.


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