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Cooking Rotten Shrooms
    #10430864 - 05/31/09 04:47 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't seen any forum posts about this.  Everyone just says "throw them away", but I don't see why boiling rotten shrooms to make tea would be a bad idea.  I know some microorganisms can survive being boiled in water, but those are only spore forming microbes and are most likely not contaminating shrooms that are grown indoors.

Has anyone ever tried this ?


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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: davedg629]
    #10431203 - 05/31/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I haven't seen any forum posts about this.  Everyone just says "throw them away", but I don't see why boiling rotten shrooms to make tea would be a bad idea.  I know some microorganisms can survive being boiled in water, but those are only spore forming microbes and are most likely not contaminating shrooms that are grown indoors.

Has anyone ever tried this ?




While I cannot say for certain, my prediction would be that boiling rotten shroom-matter and drinking the tea would lead directly to you throwing it all back up. If you could get it down at all.

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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: THC Titan]
    #10431262 - 05/31/09 06:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Alright, well to clarify I would not eat the actual shroom matter.  I would grind up the shroom matter with a coffee grinder and boil in water for at least 15 minutes (maybe 20 or 30, I'm assuming the longer you boil the better chance you have of sterilizing, but also the better chance of breaking down the psychoactive chemicals).  I would then filter the liquid so no shroom matter would remain.  The idea is that you could extract the psychoactive chemicals while killing most of the microorganisms that could make you sick.

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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: davedg629]
    #10431348 - 05/31/09 06:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

At the temperatures and length of time it would take for me to feel anywhere near safe drinking a rotten-shroom tea, all the psilocybin would probably be destroyed (It's destroyed by heat). And it would still most likely make you sick.

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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: apt403]
    #10431624 - 05/31/09 07:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You need to be concerned with removing whatever toxins the bacteria or mold have left behind.  not just the bacteria or mold itself.

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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: Beefy1]
    #10431739 - 05/31/09 07:41 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Furthermore, mushrooms that have become rotten will not grind up into a powder or anything else that's easy to work with. It will be a disgusting mush that smells bad.

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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: THC Titan]
    #10432221 - 05/31/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Define 'rotten'.  If you mean a bacteria infested, slimy mess of a mushroom, then toss it out. If you mean a normal mushroom picked from a substrate with mold, it's fine to eat.  Toss the cake or other substrate out, but the fruit is fine.
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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10433426 - 06/01/09 12:59 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the responses.  I did forget about toxins that some molds produce.

As far as my mushrooms, I picked them kinda of late (the caps were starting to get flat) and I had a fan on them for about 12 hours.  Because of certain circumstances I had to take them off the fan and try to use CaCl to dry them out.  I kinda messed that up by not changing the CaCl and the shrooms didn't dry out all the way.  After about 35 hours I had mushrooms that were still damp and looked very bruised and some were black. I then got a hold of a dehydrator and I dried them out completely.  Some of them are black, some are mostly blue with a little black, and some are just completely blue except the caps.  All of them have CaCl residue on them too.  So yea, its pretty F'ed up.  Sorry no pics.

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Re: Cooking Rotten Shrooms [Re: davedg629]
    #10433627 - 06/01/09 02:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

If the black coloring is from a conglomeration of spore bodies then there's a good chance the mold mycelium has penetrated through a very large portion of the fruiting body.
I wouldn't eat anything you may suspect something else is growing on. A tea will kill the molds but it may not destroy the toxins.

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