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OfflineTaco Chef
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abortion doctor murdered, while at church
    #10429998 - 05/31/09 02:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Doctor Who Performed Abortions Is Shot to Death

By MONICA DAVEY and JOE STUMPE
WICHITA, Kan. — George Tiller, a Wichita doctor who was one of the few doctors in the nation to perform late-term abortions, was shot to death on Sunday as he attended church, city officials in Wichita said.

Dr. Tiller, who had performed abortions since the 1970s, had long been a lightning rod for controversy over the issue of abortion, particularly in Kansas, where abortion opponents regularly protested outside his clinic and sometimes his home and church. In 1993, he was shot in both arms by an abortion opponent but recovered.

He had also been the subject of many efforts at prosecution, including a citizen-initiated grand jury investigation. In the latest such effort, in March, Dr. Tiller was acquitted of charges that he had performed late-term abortions that violated state law.

The shooting occurred at around 10 a.m. (Central time) at Reformation Lutheran Church on the city’s East Side, Dr. Tiller’s regular church.

Wichita police said that the shots were fired from a handgun in the church lobby during the morning service. The authorities gave few details, but said they were searching for a powder blue Taurus made in the 1990s that had been seen leaving shortly after the shooting. They said witnesses had described seeing a white man departing.

“This is going to be a larger search than maybe just Wichita,” said Brent Allred, a police captain, who said that the FBI and state police had been called to the scene. By noon, few parishioners remained at the church, a modern, red brick facility that seats about 500 people. Police cars surrounded the building.

Troy Newman, president of Operation Rescue, an anti-abortion group that has led opposition to Dr. Tiller’s methods, denounced the killing on Sunday. “Our prayers go out to his family and the thousands of people this will impact,” Mr. Newman said in a telephone interview from his home in Wichita.

“Operation Rescue has worked tirelessly on peaceful, non-violent measures to bring him to justice through the legal system, the legislative system,” Mr. Newman said. “I’m a tireless advocate and spokesman for the pre-born children who are dying in clinics everyday. Mr. Tiller was an abortionist. But this wasn’t personal. We are pro life, and this act was antithetical to what we believe.”

Leaders of national abortion rights organizations, meanwhile, expressed outrage. Some described Dr. Tiller as one of the only doctors in the nation who performed third trimester abortions when the life or health of a mother was at stake, and said that his death would make it even harder for women in such circumstances to end their pregnancies.

“Dr. Tiller was a fearless, passionate defender of women’s reproductive health and rights,” said Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, based in New York, which had worked on a legal case related to Dr. Tiller. “It’s time that this nation stop demonizing these doctors, and start honoring them.”

At St. George Orthodox Christian Church, next door to Dr. Tiller’s church, members said they had often been concerned about being so close to a church that often was the scene of protests because of Dr. Tiller’s presence. Dr. Tiller had attended the church for a long time, they said, and had contributed significantly to construction of the current facility, which was built in about 1996.

“This is a God-fearing community,” said Mickey Cohlmia, who was at services at the neighboring church on Sunday morning and said she was horrified that such a thing had happened in Wichita, a city of about 358,000 in southern Kansas. “How does this scar everybody in his church?”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?_r=1&ref=global-home&pagewanted=print

if the shooter turns out to be part of a network or such, i hope they treat em like domestic terrorists.


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10430025 - 05/31/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Wonder how that doctor reconciled his christian faith with his work.

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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: mybrainisawaffle]
    #10430055 - 05/31/09 02:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Kansas.  :lol:


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: mybrainisawaffle]
    #10430065 - 05/31/09 02:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Wonder how that doctor reconciled his christian faith with his work.




I wonder how the murdering redneck swine that killed him reconciles a drive-by shooting with the words of Jesus.

Actually, I'm totally lying.  I don't wonder at all.  I am pretty sure he or she just turned Pastor Hagee back on the radio and stopped thinking about it.


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: TGRR]
    #10430631 - 05/31/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

killing someone because you think their medical procedures are murder according to your religion, one that promotes love, forgiveness and peace.


oh the irony.


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #10430873 - 05/31/09 04:48 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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one that promotes love, forgiveness and peace.





Only in the second half of the bible, and they haven't got that far yet. Don't spoil it for them! It'll be a surprise :grin:


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: zouden]
    #10430959 - 05/31/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

haha.


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: zouden]
    #10431052 - 05/31/09 05:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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one that promotes love, forgiveness and peace.





Only in the second half of the bible, and they haven't got that far yet. Don't spoil it for them! It'll be a surprise :grin:





you guys obviously dont know jesus, he's all about some love until you dont see it his way

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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10431275 - 05/31/09 06:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

jezuz is all about the ak-47


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10431427 - 05/31/09 06:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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jezuz is all about the ak-47





COMIN' STRAIGHT OUT O' NAZARETH, Y'ALL BETTER MAKE WAY!


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10431546 - 05/31/09 06:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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jezuz is all about the ak-47





ask the money changers about the whip, he was a violent man

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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #10431827 - 05/31/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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oh the irony.





Sounds like utilitarnism at work, imo.

FOR THE GREATER GOOD!

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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #10432493 - 05/31/09 09:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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leftysurprise said:


oh the irony.





Its a good thing the guy wasn't pregnant!  could have been a DOUBLE homicide!! :smirk:


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: Taco Chef]
    #10432504 - 05/31/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It's Kansas. They'll probably give the guy who shot him an award.

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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: Le_Canard]
    #10432585 - 05/31/09 10:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well he did save shit load of little babies...:smirk:


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    #10432596 - 05/31/09 10:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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well he did save shit load of little babies...:smirk:





I knew someone would come along and try to justify this.

:lol:


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    #10432606 - 05/31/09 10:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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It's Kansas. They'll probably give the guy who shot him an award.





And what do we call people who extra-judicially kill people in the furtherance of a religious/political cause?

Oh, yes, we call them "terrorists".


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: TGRR]
    #10432668 - 05/31/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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And what do we call people who extra-judicially kill people in the furtherance of a religious/political cause?

Oh, yes, we call them "terrorists".





or tenured professors at a University.....


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10432699 - 05/31/09 10:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

TGRR said:

And what do we call people who extra-judicially kill people in the furtherance of a religious/political cause?

Oh, yes, we call them "terrorists".





or tenured professors at a University.....




Naw.  Terrorists.  Unless you are suggesting Lee Smolin was the gunman.

This should be good.  With any luck at all, Janet Napolitano will call this a homegrown radical's attack, and they'll swamp the entire town in DHS goons.

I mean, I'd get a real kick out of seeing some inbred redneck scum hauled out of bed and shoved into vans.  I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who would/will be laughing.


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Re: abortion doctor murdered, while at church [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10432701 - 05/31/09 10:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Bob Jones?


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