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 Akira4321
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 Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS 
#10427320 - 05/30/09 09:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey this is a Mazatapec MS Rye to Coir/Verm Mono grow. And in the first 7 days of fruiting I didn't have a fan in the closet that the tub was in but I have now fixed that. I have a really good pinset but a lot of the veils on my fruits are breaking early cause them to be really small fruits. What can this be caused by? I just put a fan in the closet yesterday so now their getting really good FAE. Someone please help. These fruits I've been getting are like and inch to and inch and a half when the veil breaks. I mean I have a few of them in there that look like they might get to full size I just don't know if it was the FAE problem that was causing the veils to break prematurly.
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: Akira4321]
#10427331 - 05/30/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pinset/substrate depth/nutrient and water availability all seem to have to do with how tall the fruits get before maturing. In general with a shallower substrate or a larger pinset, I find smaller fruits tend to result, with most of them around 2-2.5". Of course, genetics have something to do with it too, probably.
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: archivist]
#10427433 - 05/30/09 10:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't see the veils that are breaking, maybe it the pics. But you need to increase the humidity/FAE starting to look like you added a light so you are doing better. When the caps actually open then the veils will break. Until then stop worrying.
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: CH HELL]
#10427600 - 05/30/09 11:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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You asked this yesterday. Small fruits have nothing to do with low FAE. An indication of insufficient FAE would be long skinny stems and small caps.
The reason your fruits are maturing early is because your substrate is too dry to support that good pinset you got. Give your tub a good dunk for the next flush and fruit size will improve.
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: Dudester67]
#10427614 - 05/30/09 11:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dudester67 said:
Small fruits have nothing to do with low FAE. An indication of insufficient FAE would be long skinny stems and small caps.
The reason your fruits are maturing early is because your substrate is too dry
can someone confirm?
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: kinderfeld11]
#10427627 - 05/30/09 11:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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kinderfeld11 said:
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Dudester67 said:
Small fruits have nothing to do with low FAE. An indication of insufficient FAE would be long skinny stems and small caps.
The reason your fruits are maturing early is because your substrate is too dry
can someone confirm?
yes.
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: archivist]
#10427802 - 05/30/09 11:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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archivist said:
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kinderfeld11 said:
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Dudester67 said:
Small fruits have nothing to do with low FAE. An indication of insufficient FAE would be long skinny stems and small caps.
The reason your fruits are maturing early is because your substrate is too dry
can someone confirm?
yes.
I second the motion.
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Akira4321
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: archivist]
#10427896 - 05/31/09 12:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a 4" substrate depth and the substrate is at optimum moister content. I think it may just be the genetics. Does anyone else have any feedback on this?
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: Akira4321]
#10427971 - 05/31/09 12:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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A good pinset will dry out a substrate pretty darn quick. Pick up the tub and you should be able to get a pretty good feel for the moisture content by the weight. If necessary, pour a few glasses of water around the edges and on top, and a few hours later, pour off any excess. If the veils are tearing and the caps are opening when the fruits are small, it's 99 times out of a hundred low substrate moisture content.
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Akira4321
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: RogerRabbit]
#10428457 - 05/31/09 04:24 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Okay I have followed what RR says about intoducing some water to my tub and letting the myc drink so to speak for a couple of hours. But how do I get this excess what that is left out of the tub?
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Re: Why Are My Veils Breaking So Early? PICS [Re: Akira4321] 1
#10428610 - 05/31/09 07:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tilt the tub and pour it out. A hole or two just above the substrate should make it easy to pour out without damaging the substrate itself. A little bit left over will be fine. The mycelium will absorb it within a day or two.
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