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Harry Mannbakk
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Horse manure concerns
#10406422 - 05/27/09 08:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hello all,
27 jars of Amazonian spawn are ready and I am looking around for some horse manure. To start, my last success was using field aged manure and my bulk trays came out great. I proceeded to use that same sample of manure that I had collected to spawn a tray months after my initial grow. That tray was fully contaminated with all sorts of green and whites. Something had gone wrong with the manure just sitting in a plastic tub over time.
Question concerning horse manure: concerns fe
1. I assume the manure I collected just went bad as it aged in a sealed container for future use. If I went back to the same field and tried to collect the same manure from before that I know to be untouched, will it have aged like fine wine or has it gone bad and past its mycological use? Can manure age in the pasture for too long?
2. I would really like to stick with a horse manure mixture for bulk sub straight. Other than straight from the fields, where are some other places to get some horse manure that could be suitible for bulk sub straight? Has anyone had good results from bagged horse manure?
I would like to spawn these jars today if possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
-Harry Mannbakk
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The correct way to store horse manure is in a paper or other breathable container, open to the air. If you seal it up, it will mold. Go collect some more field aged manure and you'll be fine. RR
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I don't think it would be too aged... Give it a go.
Also, I wouldn't store horse manure in an airtight container - that's asking for contamination! Stale, moist air... mmmm...
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Brennus
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Harry Mannbakk said: I proceeded to use that same sample of manure that I had collected to spawn a tray months after my initial grow. That tray was fully contaminated with all sorts of green and whites. Something had gone wrong with the manure just sitting in a plastic tub over time.
Was the manure kept dry? Did it stink when you went back to the same supply? Field aged manure should never stink - it should smell like dirt. If it didn't get wet and start to stink during storage, you might have had bad spawn or improperly pasteurized your bulk substrate.
1. Manure doesn't really 'go bad' as long as you keep it dry and it's been properly leeched and dried. The only time manure is aged for too long is when it actually starts to resemble dirt (consistency-wise) and doesn't have the occasional nugget.
2. I've never seen commercially-sold horse manure - cow manure is usually more popular. Personally, I recently found a source about 45 minutes away that sells 50 lb. bags of field aged manure (spent the last few months trying to find someone that doesn't simply give away the shit they sweep out of the stables, which often has cedar shavings) for a few bucks a bag with no pine or cedar shavings and straight from the field.
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Harry Mannbakk
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Re: Horse manure concerns [Re: Brennus]
#10406469 - 05/27/09 08:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks for the feedback. I figured the airtight container was the problem with storage. Im going to go ahead return to the same pasture and collect what is still left from the last time. I hope it works well as it did the last time!
Thanks! -Harry Mannbakk
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Brennus
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RogerRabbit said: The correct way to store horse manure is in a paper or other breathable container, open to the air. If you seal it up, it will mold. Go collect some more field aged manure and you'll be fine. RR
I plan on getting 200 lbs of field-aged manure this week and storing it in a dirt-floor basement in burlap/heavy-duty paper sacks. I've never stored manure long-term - any suggestions or should I not keep that much around to begin with?
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Re: Horse manure concerns [Re: Brennus]
#10406506 - 05/27/09 09:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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no!! I think that will work as long as all of the moisture is out of it!! breathable burlap should be good.........e
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Re: Horse manure concerns [Re: electrics]
#10425724 - 05/30/09 03:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should you do anything to it while its being stored, like turn it over or anything? I'm keeping some in those large Sterilite containers from Walmart, it was completely dry when I put it in but I've been wondering if it will keep that way.
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