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Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card.
    #10413235 - 05/28/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink'

LOS ANGELES - President Barack Obama defended his Supreme Court pick and painted an upbeat vision of the economy Wednesday as he addressed major donors to the Democratic Party in Beverly Hills.


It's safe to say we have stepped back from the brink, that there is some calm that didn't exist before," Obama told donors and celebrities at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. He said the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy.  telling supporters they, "ain't seen nothing yet."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iKPp5DEzS5Hz2sIyBsSOA0pw_LjwD98ET65G0

Obama also addressed critics of his choice of federal judge Sonia Sotomayor for the nation's highest court.


Today press secretary Robert Gibbs (warned Republicans) not to criticize President Obama's first Supreme Court nominee:


The White House issued a pointed warning to opponents of Judge Sonia Sotomayor's Supreme Court nomination Wednesday, urging critics to measure their words carefully during a politically charged confirmation debate.


"I think it is probably important for anybody involved in this debate to be exceedingly careful with the way in which they've decided to describe different aspects of this impending confirmation," Gibbs said.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/27/obama-economy-brink/



Obama claims HIS stimulus saved us!!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

we are saved!!!!


and the messiah does not need to threaten the Republicans!





this is the current state of the Republican Party........


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10417192 - 05/29/09 12:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

He said the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy.  telling supporters they, "ain't seen nothing yet."



Obama claims HIS stimulus saved us!!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

we are saved!!!!



Why did you say "'HIS' stimulus"?

Are you reading something I missed?    :shrug:


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #10418082 - 05/29/09 06:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

> Why did you say "'HIS' stimulus"?

Oh, right... it was Bush's stimulus package that saved us.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #10418763 - 05/29/09 10:09 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

He said the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy.  telling supporters they, "ain't seen nothing yet."



Obama claims HIS stimulus saved us!!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

we are saved!!!!



Why did you say "'HIS' stimulus"?

Are you reading something I missed?    :shrug:




its HIS PORK BILL!

 
"President Obama’s central focus is on stimulating economic recovery and helping America emerge a stronger and more prosperous nation.


"President Obama’s first priority in confronting the economic crisis is to put Americans back to work. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan signed by the President will spur job creation. The recovery plan will save or create about 3.5 million jobs while investing in priorities that create sustainable economic growth for the future.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/economy/

IMO HIS stimulus bill did not bring the economy from "back from the brink", and it didn't even "Improve the Economy" like he said.

what fucking economy is he living in!!! He's talking about the great improved economy that he saved and is raising cash in a state that's on the Verge of bankruptcy! :eek:


If anything i predict Obama monetizing HIS growing debt is going to end very badly....(check out the dollar today!)

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=s


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10427330 - 05/30/09 10:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink'

It's safe to say we have stepped back from the brink, that there is some calm that didn't exist before," Obama told donors and celebrities at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. He said the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy.  telling supporters they, "ain't seen nothing yet."






Funny cause the world's elite (and our top treasury peeps) seem to disagree:

Quote:

This year the club is going to talk about depression. “According to the pre-meeting booklet sent out to attendees, Bilderberg is looking at two options,” says the Bilderberg-watcher Daniel Estulin — “either a prolonged, agonising depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty — or an intense but shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable economic world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”


Uh-bama?

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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: CowFarmer]
    #10429354 - 05/31/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

"A handful of high-ranking Obama administration officials this month delivered private briefings at the annual invitation-only conference held by an elite international organization known as the Bilderberg group.

"The closed meeting of some of the most powerful business, media and political leaders in North America and Western Europe heard from top Obama diplomats James Steinberg and Richard Holbrooke, who detailed the administration’s foreign policy, while economic adviser Paul Volcker, chairman of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, also gave a presentation at the heavily guarded seaside resort in Greece that hosted the event.

"Steinberg, the deputy secretary of state, gave a presentation on the administration’s broader foreign policy and National Security Agency Director Lt. Gen. Keith Alexander also participated in the conference.


"An assistant to Volcker said she did not know the subject of his presentation at this year’s meeting. A White House official stressed that Volcker is not a full-time employee and wasn’t representing Obama in Greece. The White House, State Department and NSA did not respond to questions about whether Alexander, Holbrooke and Steinberg – all repeat Bilderberger attendees – were representing the Obama administration at the meeting and whether tax dollars paid for their travel.

"Bilderbergers were torn between whether to initiate a prolonged, agonizing depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty … or an intense-but-shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable economic world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”

"Estulin, the author of “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group,” claims to have infiltrated Bilderberg, and he told POLITICO that “in the end, the shorter-intense crowd within the Bilderbergers won out and so we’re going to be looking at a year, a year-and-a-half of really intense financial meltdown.”





http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22957.html


"less sovereignty but more efficiency" :sad:


fucking great....


it wouldn't surprise me! It does seem that Obama is purposely trying to melt the system down.  (so he can create a new world order?)


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10429849 - 05/31/09 01:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:tinfoil:


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10429905 - 05/31/09 01:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

He said the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy.  telling supporters they, "ain't seen nothing yet."



Obama claims HIS stimulus saved us!!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

we are saved!!!!



Why did you say "'HIS' stimulus"?

Are you reading something I missed?    :shrug:




its HIS PORK BILL!

 




Based on the Fox News article, it's congress' pork bill.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: TGRR]
    #10429960 - 05/31/09 02:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

his name is on the dotted line, had he vetoed it, wouldnt be his
any more would it, it's kinda like GWs war, congress passed it, GW
just signed off on it so he gets the blame

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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10430005 - 05/31/09 02:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
his name is on the dotted line, had he vetoed it, wouldnt be his
any more would it, it's kinda like GWs war, congress passed it, GW
just signed off on it so he gets the blame




Yeah, don't forget he also lied to Congress and the American people about weapons of mass destruction and the risks of Saddam Hussein's regime attacking the United States, which were fabricated by the administration.

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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10430071 - 05/31/09 02:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
his name is on the dotted line, had he vetoed it, wouldnt be his
any more would it, it's kinda like GWs war, congress passed it, GW
just signed off on it so he gets the blame




Actually, the Iraq war bill gave Bush the discretion to launch the war, it compelled him in no way.

(Every congressman and senator involved should have been ridden out on a split rail for unconstitutionally abdicating their constitutional powers, but that's another issue.)


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #10430079 - 05/31/09 02:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:
:tinfoil:





tinfoil?

Are you saying that the chairman of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, Obama's deputy secretary of state, and his NSA Director did not participate in this secret elitist group meeting?


why do i bother to ask.....

I'm sure you obama supporters have not problem with public officials having secret meetings about world policy...


lets get back to talking about George Bush and those WMD'S!!!


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10430086 - 05/31/09 02:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm sure you obama supporters have not problem with public officials having secret meetings about world policy...





I'm just wondering why it took 8 years to start bothering YOU, know what I mean?


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: TGRR]
    #10430095 - 05/31/09 02:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1213724783

thank god your boy Obama ended the Iraq war in 2009 like he promised!!


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10430100 - 05/31/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1213724783

thank god your boy Obama ended in 2009 like he promised!!




My boy?  :lol:

You right wingers really DO believe that "if you're not for us, your against us" crap, don't you?


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: TGRR]
    #10430145 - 05/31/09 02:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

TGRR said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
his name is on the dotted line, had he vetoed it, wouldnt be his
any more would it, it's kinda like GWs war, congress passed it, GW
just signed off on it so he gets the blame




Actually, the Iraq war bill gave Bush the discretion to launch the war, it compelled him in no way.

(Every congressman and senator involved should have been ridden out on a split rail for unconstitutionally abdicating their constitutional powers, but that's another issue.)





which congress could have voted no on

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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: THC Titan]
    #10430151 - 05/31/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

THC Titan said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
his name is on the dotted line, had he vetoed it, wouldnt be his
any more would it, it's kinda like GWs war, congress passed it, GW
just signed off on it so he gets the blame




Yeah, don't forget he also lied to Congress and the American people about weapons of mass destruction and the risks of Saddam Hussein's regime attacking the United States, which were fabricated by the administration.






which congress could have voted no

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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10430153 - 05/31/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

TGRR said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
his name is on the dotted line, had he vetoed it, wouldnt be his
any more would it, it's kinda like GWs war, congress passed it, GW
just signed off on it so he gets the blame




Actually, the Iraq war bill gave Bush the discretion to launch the war, it compelled him in no way.

(Every congressman and senator involved should have been ridden out on a split rail for unconstitutionally abdicating their constitutional powers, but that's another issue.)





which congress could have voted no on




No on what?


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: TGRR]
    #10430158 - 05/31/09 02:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

everything

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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10430172 - 05/31/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
everything




Um, yeah.  They could have.  Instead they gave Bush the OPTION, which Bush then chose to use.  Had they declared war, he would have had no choice. 

So Bush can't hide behind congress on that one.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: THC Titan]
    #10430196 - 05/31/09 02:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, don't forget he also lied to Congress and the American people about weapons of mass destruction and the risks of Saddam Hussein's regime attacking the United States, which were fabricated by the administration.



So you've found proof he lied? Directly and deliberately lied? Not just that the intelligence was wrong?

Please.... provide the proof if you'd be so kind.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: TGRR]
    #10430197 - 05/31/09 02:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

TGRR said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1213724783

thank god your boy Obama ended in 2009 like he promised!!





You right wingers really DO believe that "if you're not for us, your against us" crap, don't you?





the "right" has lost its power? 





the left is now in control. i attack its Policy and the usual suspects always defend it.



Have you filled out an application? :smirk:


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10430470 - 05/31/09 03:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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the left is now in control. i attack its Policy and the usual suspects always defend it.





And the usual suspects are...?


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10432730 - 05/31/09 10:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

He said the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy.  telling supporters they, "ain't seen nothing yet."



Obama claims HIS stimulus saved us!!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

we are saved!!!!



Why did you say "'HIS' stimulus"?

Are you reading something I missed?    :shrug:




its HIS PORK BILL!



Ya, but he never said "HIS" stimulus saved us.  He said "the stimulus bill that Congress passed three months ago is starting to improve the economy."  He's not as arrogant as you claim (although you're welcome to give him credit for the bill if you like).


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10432856 - 05/31/09 10:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

pinkfloydms said:
:tinfoil:





tinfoil?

Are you saying that the chairman of President Obama�s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, Obama's deputy secretary of state, and his NSA Director did not participate in this secret elitist group meeting?


why do i bother to ask.....

I'm sure you obama supporters have not problem with public officials having secret meetings about world policy...


lets get back to talking about George Bush and those WMD'S!!!




Like I said :tinfoil:.

You act like something has changed...

P.S. I didn't vote for Obama.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #10432936 - 05/31/09 11:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:


P.S. I didn't vote for Obama.




I hear that a lot! :eek:

who did vote for him?

maybe it was just a few Acorn workers voting over and over about 70 million times?


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10433432 - 06/01/09 01:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I voted for him, quite frankly I like the stimulus package more than I like the $700,000,000,000 big bank give away bush signed.  I also believe that rebuilding our infrastructure is probably a good idea and doing so now is better than waiting for other levies and bridges to collapse.

I also believe that one way to prevent a recession from deepening into an depression is to inject extra money into the market.  The problem is paying it back, and I believe that Obama recognizes this.  There are no easy answers to get us out of this mess.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Smackshadow]
    #10433813 - 06/01/09 04:30 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

> I also believe that one way to prevent a recession from deepening into an depression is to inject extra money into the market. 

Ah yes, the power of inflation.  Injecting value into the market, not money, is what is needed.

> There are no easy answers to get us out of this mess.

Not without upsetting the lobbyists, labor unions, and wallstreet elitists.  God forbid Obama actually embraced his policy of change and took the country away from special interest groups and gave it back to the People.


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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Smackshadow]
    #10434504 - 06/01/09 10:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I also believe that one way to prevent a recession from deepening into an depression is to inject extra money into the market.  The problem is paying it back, and I believe that Obama recognizes this.  .





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Re: Obama: Economy Is 'Back From the Brink' Plays the race card. [Re: Smackshadow]
    #10435015 - 06/01/09 12:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I also believe that rebuilding our infrastructure is probably a good idea and doing so now is better than waiting for other levies and bridges to collapse.

I also believe that one way to prevent a recession from deepening into an depression is to inject extra money into the market.  The problem is paying it back, and I believe that Obama recognizes this.  There are no easy answers to get us out of this mess.



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