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exploding mushrooms
    #1040337 - 11/10/02 04:55 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

the other day i came home from work and this tray of shrooms had doubled in size since i left. the stems on most of them cracked really bad, ive had stems crack on me before , but never to this extent, some of em look like black cats went off inside em. anyway, they were just about to the point when they would break veil but after that growth spurt they stopped altogether and i picked em the next nite. what the hell happened? theyre growin on horse dung spawned with HMF , 50/50+ casing layer, perlite humidification, two fannings a day (usually around four when fruiting) i did a search and couldnt find anything, please help.


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1040342 - 11/10/02 05:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Whats HMF?


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Skikid16]
    #1040375 - 11/10/02 05:26 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

hawks magic formula


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1040392 - 11/10/02 05:37 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, never heard of it.


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1040400 - 11/10/02 05:45 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Neither. What is it?


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1040432 - 11/10/02 06:11 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Its Hawks MAGIC formula :smile: 


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: zeta]
    #1040447 - 11/10/02 06:28 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

its ryche hawks finch seed mix, i cant believe you guys havent heard of it, i thought it was a standard. but thats beside the point, why did they stop growing?


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1040476 - 11/10/02 07:36 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

How is the humidity, too low perhaps?


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1040901 - 11/10/02 02:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

do you mean cracked or split? like the stretchmarks on a human the skin on the mushrooms split and ripped like on the head of the mushroom? the ones i bought one time were like that. probably high metabolism of the shrooms lol. skin didnt grow with the muscle  :tongue:


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1041258 - 11/10/02 05:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

did you water heavily when it was very dry? This can cause mushrooms to absorb water faster so fast that they will split open.


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1042102 - 11/11/02 01:13 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I would have to guess they absorbed too much water, and then maybe the humidity dropped because it got cold or something. I've been surfing this board for near 2 yrs and never heard of Hawks magic formula.


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Shaw]
    #1043032 - 11/11/02 12:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

RE: una
yeah that sounds right. i had been injecting water into the bottom layer and injected more than usual the night before cause i was anticipating some heavy spores and was going to print the whole batch. so that sucks, oh well live and learn right?
hawks magic formula;
this used to be on hawks website back in the day, till i guess somebody cracked down on him and now he doesnt have any grow tips or anything like that. i cant find my original print out so i dont have the %'s heres the small scale recipe:


-20 tbls finch seed
-7 tbls brow rice flour
-4 tbls flax seed meal
-10 tbls vermiculite
this makes about six 1/2 pint jars , if you want to make more just se a bigger spoon.
you can spawn with it or case it by itself. i love it , so do the shrooms, maybe im just scared of change.

thanks guys.


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1043802 - 11/11/02 04:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So the HMF is used like spawn?? I wonder if you could do it as cakes for S &G's?

Cool- something new to play with.

The results are still out on the brown rice rolled in BRF. The whole brown rice germs really fast.



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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1043935 - 11/11/02 05:19 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

they dont do well when fruited only as cake.


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1044752 - 11/11/02 10:51 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Did they not only split and explode, but look gnarly too? If so it's a contam, verticillium.

My current bet is if the stems weren't all wrinkly, gnarled looking, water absorbtion. If they are, verticilum.

How did the shrooms feel, were they noticably waterlogged?


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: mycofile]
    #1045883 - 11/12/02 11:58 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

they didnt look too gnarly other than the stems blowing up, a couple of them grew in a circle though and one grew over the casing horizontally, however these deformed ones were in the shadow of the terarium and grew toward two different light sources. they didnt seem unusually wet or anything either.
its starting its second flush now, is there anything i can look for if this is verticillium? i guess i will know if this flush does it too right? are they safe to eat? (i hope so cause i ate some last night)


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Re: exploding mushrooms [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #1050064 - 11/13/02 08:04 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

If you had some last night, then they must be safe, right?
Just kidding. I don't think there is any toxicity known, but I'll check tmc to be sure.

You would notice the nasty gnarled effect that this contam has, it's not just exploded, it looks like a gnarled root that Merlin would use as a wand...


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