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Harlz
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Ohmatic Monotub questions
#10402748 - 05/26/09 03:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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When using this after pins form and everything do you fan and mist like a regular FC
Im planning to do a coffee/coir bulk sub in a monotub and I need some clarification
thanks
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Harlz]
#10402779 - 05/26/09 04:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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No.
You don't do shit, thats the point of a monotub.
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set it and forget it. only open to harvest.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Optx]
#10402833 - 05/26/09 04:19 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is it the best method? Or can you guys suggest me to a better one cuz that seems pretty sweet
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Harlz]
#10402948 - 05/26/09 04:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's basically two setups.
Setup a: The ohmatic "set and forget" style
Setup b: The vented spongiform style :-D


I'm not gonna say either one is better or worse until I do some more extensive side by side comparisons.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Spongiform]
#10403236 - 05/26/09 05:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mono tubs are pretty much the shit IMO.. I mean add everything together let it colonize then stuff with polyfill and let it sit there till the harvest is ready.. Or if you want to be a little bit more involved you can do spongi's monotub way, but that requires you to mist it once or twice a day.
But hey to each his own I am lazy and I am a full time student and worker so I don't have time to worry about if the moisture content is right so I stuff the holes with polyfill and harvest then mushies a few days later.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Damion5050]
#10403307 - 05/26/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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sorry to jump in on someone else's thread, but i'm planning on building my first monotub in the next few days... i was just wondering, during colonization, if i duct tape the holes (from the inside) does this allow for enough gas exchange? and if i do this, do i also have to cover the tub with a blanket or trash bag to keep out light? or does this serve another purpose?
when its time to fruit i would just switch to polyfil. soud acceptable?
i'm also wondering about sterility during monotub prep, but i'll start a new thread for that!
thanks!
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: protestsong]
#10403673 - 05/26/09 06:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can duct tape the holes shut, and it's ok to leave tiny/hair line openings for a bit of gas exchange.
Afterwards you'd remove it and replace with polyfill or vents.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Spongiform]
#10403846 - 05/26/09 07:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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What I do is duct tape it from the outside and not to make an argument with spongi but I don't put a slit in the tape because on my tubs the lids don't fit very tight and that right there provides enough gas exchange during colonization for my tubs..
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Damion5050]
#10403994 - 05/26/09 07:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spongiform... do you use polyfill in your vented tub?
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: ArcJ]
#10404027 - 05/26/09 08:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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So does the coco coir humidify the pins as well? Im assuming the polyfill holes are for Fae
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: ArcJ]
#10404113 - 05/26/09 08:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
ArcJ said: Spongiform... do you use polyfill in your vented tub?
No, I use vents instead of polyfill.



On that last pic, you can see that I forget to refill the humidifier and the top of the mycelium bruised a little due to that. However, it didn't seem to affect those big healthy fruits :-D
Ended up with a decent harvest out of that tub.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Spongiform]
#10404128 - 05/26/09 08:25 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yum those are gorgeous broski!
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Harlz]
#10404206 - 05/26/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's the thing. I came to these forums as 100% newbie to mycology/mushroom growing.
Somewhere along the line I wondered if plastic containers would be suitable for growing, so I posted and asked about it. I was told no, they would not work. Being stubborn, I tried it anyway just for the hell of it. Not only did it work, it worked great. I posted pics of my success and still some people didn't believe me.
I have a buddy who has a natural engineering/build shit/fix shit type talent, so showed him the rough plans I had for a monotub and asked for his input. He suggested soffit vents. So I came on here and asked about it. General consensus was that it would not work.
I tried it anyway, and again, not only did it work, it worked great.


But like I said, I don't know if it's BETTER or worse yet, but I plan to find out over the next few months.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Spongiform]
#10404231 - 05/26/09 08:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can you only flush these tubs once?
If you can flush multiple times how do you Dunk?
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Harlz]
#10404252 - 05/26/09 08:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That last tub in the pic got 6 or 7 flushes before I threw it out.
The PE doesn't seem to like to reflush much. Usually get 3 tops before it poops out but those chitwans would keep going and going till they ran out of steam or got contam'd.
Even then if it was just a little spot of green I'd salt the shit out of it and put verm over it and get another flush or two anyway.
I tested some various methods for dunking and found the easiest way was to just pour a cup of water in there between flushes.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Spongiform]
#10404269 - 05/26/09 08:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dumping a cup of tap water over top of the mycellium inside the mono tub,That s considered a dunk? and the mycellium will be filled with holes from fruiting, Do I do anything about those?
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Harlz]
#10404281 - 05/26/09 08:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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If they are big holes you can patch them with casing, if not the myc will form a patch over it itself in a day or two. I take a cup of water and pour a little bit in a few spots, then mist heavily till its soaked good, then return to the normal routine.
Usually fruits again in a few days.
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Spongiform]
#10404299 - 05/26/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well Im gonna use an Ohmatic tub is the thing, and what is considered casing, im doing coir/coffee/verm sub? I believe ... your help is great btw!
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Re: Ohmatic Monotub questions [Re: Harlz]
#10404363 - 05/26/09 09:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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You will not need a casing for the ohmatic style.
After it's fully colonized you'd place a thin layer of non-nutritious water absorbent material over the top to provide a micro-climate of high humidity just above the substrate to induce fruiting.
The ohmatic seals in the humidity, so there's no need.
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