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OfflinedIZZY_ALpH
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WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!?
    #1039049 - 11/09/02 04:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Ok well, here it is. I've tried a total of 18 jars so far.. and lost all 18 of them! This isnt in one shot either. This is 3 different trials. I seriously and getting so pissed I am considering quitng, and I have never been a quitter. Here is my question. On 2 of the 3 occassions, i broke the cakes up and they looked totally fine when i broke them up. I covered them in plastic wrap and then steralized the verm in the oven. I come back 45 mintues later and all the chunks have GREEN in them. What the hell is up with this! Please give me some insight guys. Thanks.

~ALpH~


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: dIZZY_ALpH]
    #1039059 - 11/09/02 04:42 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

He wrote me a letter. He says you smell funny.  :grin:

It sounds as though you've lost all your jars to contams yes no? I can't say for certain, you will need to be more specific, but it sounds like your cakes may have been bruising, not getting contaminated. Forty-five mintuets I do not believe would be fast enough for a mold spore to germinate on the cake. Furthermore, you should have your cakes exposed to the open air as short of a time as possible. You need to have your Verm. sterilized before you break your cakes up. They should never be sitting out for 45 minutes, covered or not. 


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Offlinekykeon
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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: dIZZY_ALpH]
    #1039382 - 11/09/02 08:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yeah it looks the same to me. if you let the cake crumbled but white and healthy, it cant get green mold all over it in no time, so it must be bruising.

I had a lot of problems when i started and i thought "this isnt gonna work for me" but i insisted and it did and it does now on and it gets better all the time, working with new strains and methods. DONT QUIT! You deserve the joy of the first mushroom in your room... :wink:

Kykeon  :laugh:
athens, greece 


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: kykeon]
    #1039405 - 11/09/02 08:34 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, the first cakes I birthed bruised a little blue but I thought it was a blue/green contam. I cut it out with a knife even, which was dumb. It just spread the bruising.


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1039419 - 11/09/02 08:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Whats a good method for making sure you dont bruise your cakes at all? This is my first time and i dont want to f up. I am using pf tek for the simple mind. If anyone knows anything they dont mention, let me know please.


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: RageOholic67]
    #1039446 - 11/09/02 09:04 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

If you are making cakes, you are probably going to bruise them when you birth them unless the jars are "V" shaped (tapered?). Its not a big deal, however.


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: dIZZY_ALpH]
    #1039545 - 11/09/02 10:08 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

How are you sterilizing your substrate? I don't think that you have contams, but you may.


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: dIZZY_ALpH]
    #1039588 - 11/09/02 10:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

After experiencing contams your jars have to be cleaned in bleach or you'll get contam every time. Found this out the hard way :crazy:
Try using different spores and bleaching jars also use only distilled water when making jars/substrate.
this should make a difference.


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #1039661 - 11/09/02 11:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"After experiencing contams your jars have to be cleaned in bleach or you'll get contam every time. Found this out the hard way
Try using different spores and bleaching jars also use only distilled water when making jars/substrate.
this should make a difference. "


I too, happened to find this out the hard way :frown:


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Re: WHY HAS GOD FORSAKEN ME!? [Re: dIZZY_ALpH]
    #1039861 - 11/10/02 12:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i was fooled once with what i thought was contam (trich aka greem mold)
cause of the bruising color which was a light pastel green (not blue al all)

iv'e seen trich before on cakes and the color is a very dark crayola green so my honest newbie opinion i think you had a brusing scare too.



Edited by trippy (11/10/02 01:01 AM)


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