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rules of attratction?
    #10335185 - 05/13/09 10:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

What do you all think of it? I think it might be garbage even after seeing the movie.I mean how can just the way you think get you what you want in life.I definitely agree to someone thinking positive and living and repeating to themselves like what a muntra, (is that what you call it)to help them change the outlook of how they see and live their life,but to amply that to becoming rich or even lets say getting a parking spot on christmas eve at the mall,c'mon.Then again there are some pretty spectacular things in life.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: devappy]
    #10335392 - 05/13/09 11:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I like the movie. Lauren is hot.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: Sventington]
    #10336236 - 05/14/09 03:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The Chaser's take on it


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: Mufungo]
    #10339132 - 05/14/09 05:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

dude that's great.I love the last part when t hey try to just take everything!!


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: devappy]
    #10339348 - 05/14/09 06:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I think it's all new age bullshit :wink:


Haha, I loved that video:

"Excuse me sir, we believe your in our car"


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Re: rules of attratction? (moved) [Re: devappy]
    #10339365 - 05/14/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

This thread was moved from Philosophy & Spirituality.

Reason:
Probably get more useful answers here.


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Re: rules of attratction? (moved) [Re: deCypher]
    #10339861 - 05/14/09 07:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

First the mind conjures up an concept. Through focus and concentration that concept is invested with energy because where ones attention goes there ones energy flows. Upon being fed enough energy through being focused on that concept gains a physical form and is manifest into reality. Concentrating on health brings health and concentrating on strength brings strength. Ones reality is created by what one focus's on... what one focus's on grows larger.

Concentrating on something in order to manifest it into ones personal reality is not the same as analyzing something. A person can analyze negative things without manifesting it in reality. It is good to ponder that which is negative.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: devappy]
    #10339937 - 05/14/09 08:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ive witnessed thoughts change reality, but its not as simple as "Positive thoughts" = positive reactions.

Its the feeling behind thoughts that make them able to interact with the matrix of time and space. The invisible dimensions made of dream and feeling, of consciousness, react to your thoughts. You could change things anywhere in the world with your mind if you knew how to, it knows no distance. Of course it is impossible to map this phenomenon out because it is not able to be mapped out, the way it works is not in visible 'up' and 'down' directions. One that has been introduced into the synchronicity of time will notice that his or her thoughts and feelings will change things around him.

Time and space itself is able to be manipulated by the right mind.


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Re: rules of attratction? (moved) [Re: lines]
    #10339999 - 05/14/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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First the mind conjures up an concept. Through focus and concentration that concept is invested with energy because where ones attention goes there ones energy flows. Upon being fed enough energy through being focused on that concept gains a physical form and is manifest into reality. Concentrating on health brings health and concentrating on strength brings strength. Ones reality is created by what one focus's on... what one focus's on grows larger.




Right, except that it works a little differently in the real world. You visualize something you want (a car). Then you focus and concentrate on getting that car by earning money. Then the car manifests into reality when you buy it.

Visualization helps us to set goals and prioritize our lives. If I visualize my new car it helps me focus on working toward it. If I think positively, it makes the task easier and makes life more enjoyable. Visualization and positive thinking are great things to practice in life, however, using them as a substitute for earning things is retarded. I just conjured up the idea that I want a Lamborghini, if I sit right here at my computer for the next three days investing that concept with energy through focus and concentration, I will not suddenly manifest a Lamborghini in my driveway. Obviously an extreme example, but the point is, the secret is a bunch of crap. The guy who said he changed his bank statement to read 532,000.00 instead of 532.00 didn't manifest that money, he set a goal to become wealthy and then he completed his goal. People act like this is a big deal, but its not. The guy wasn't working at McDonalds, he probably had a high paying job and made it a goal to save money and then he stopped spending as much and made a few good investments.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: devappy]
    #10340069 - 05/14/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Why do people always focus their thoughts on materialization? If that is actually possible to create matter with thought, don't expect to be able to do it.


Thought is better at changing other people's minds, try focusing your energy on the unseen before you try to just conjure up matter itself...


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #10340090 - 05/14/09 08:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly, I don't buy the whole manifesting stuff thing, even with other people's thoughts. If you try the whole secret thing at a more moderate level, you will notice a positive change in your life, but its because you are focusing on your goals. Manifesting a promotion doesn't work any better than manifesting a new car.


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"Psychedelics helped me to escape.. albeit momentarily.. from the prison of my mind. It over-rode the habit patterns of thought and I was able to taste innocence again. Looking at sensations freshly without the conceptual overlay was very profound." - Ram Das


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: teeter]
    #10341680 - 05/15/09 02:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

1) A person really believes that the rules of attraction (ROA) might work for them.
2) Person uses ROA consistently and broadly across many aspects of their life.
3) Each time that they actually get what they wanted and if they used the ROA on that thing they got, then they erroneously associate a cause/effect relationship between them using the ROA and getting the thing.
4) If this pattern occurs several time, then another erroneous conclusion can be made that the ROA reliably delivers the goods.

Two words sum this up: Confirmation bias

For it to really work the person needs to remain ignorant of all the things they want and get without the ROA and also ignorant of all the things they use the ROA on and don't get.

I tried something similar to the ROA for a while many years ago and I was getting good results. I remember that when I got what I had envisaged, it felt kind of good and it was a bit of fun to associate a mystical cause to my acquisition. I remember feeling kind of powerful as though I was harnessing some sort of metaphysical power.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: Mufungo]
    #10341769 - 05/15/09 02:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: teeter]
    #10342342 - 05/15/09 07:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Honestly, I don't buy the whole manifesting stuff thing, even with other people's thoughts. If you try the whole secret thing at a more moderate level, you will notice a positive change in your life, but its because you are focusing on your goals. Manifesting a promotion doesn't work any better than manifesting a new car.





I witness receiving and inserting thoughts with people all the time.

Once it starts happening on an everyday basis, you realize something is happening.

Its not as simple as it sounds though, most people cant just recieve and insert thoughts on will.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #10345504 - 05/15/09 07:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The "chasers" video posted on it was hilarious.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #10345947 - 05/15/09 08:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Honestly, I don't buy the whole manifesting stuff thing, even with other people's thoughts. If you try the whole secret thing at a more moderate level, you will notice a positive change in your life, but its because you are focusing on your goals. Manifesting a promotion doesn't work any better than manifesting a new car.





I witness receiving and inserting thoughts with people all the time.

Once it starts happening on an everyday basis, you realize something is happening.

Its not as simple as it sounds though, most people cant just recieve and insert thoughts on will.




Explain this more please.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: teeter]
    #10347787 - 05/16/09 08:38 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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teeter said:
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teeter said:
Honestly, I don't buy the whole manifesting stuff thing, even with other people's thoughts. If you try the whole secret thing at a more moderate level, you will notice a positive change in your life, but its because you are focusing on your goals. Manifesting a promotion doesn't work any better than manifesting a new car.





I witness receiving and inserting thoughts with people all the time.

Once it starts happening on an everyday basis, you realize something is happening.

Its not as simple as it sounds though, most people cant just receive and insert thoughts on will.




Explain this more please.





I get images of what people are about to say before they say it. Or a thought will pop in my head and then the person will say that exact thought. Or I will get a thought that seems alien to me and say it out loud and they will say, "I was just thinking that."

Its not exactly reading a mind, because I cant just look at someone and see everything they are thinking, but who knows, maybe it could get that way...

Also if there is a situation where a thought can be easily inserted into someone's consciousness, as if you ask them a question that they would never know and I think of the answer and "focus" on them for a second, they will sometimes say what I am trying to insert into their mind. I wouldn't even call it focusing on them because I usually just think it, all of this seems to have a will of its own, though I can control it just a little bit.

This works best when the other persons mind is at a stand still receiving point, as in they are looking for an answer, that is when they can best receive the thought into their consciousness.

Now if this just happened occasionally, I would dismiss it ,but it happens everyday...


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #10348186 - 05/16/09 11:31 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That sounds more like some form of psychic ability than the rules of attraction.


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Re: rules of attratction? [Re: teeter]
    #10387515 - 05/23/09 06:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I really do think that poeple do not use their minds enough,or at least try to use their minds other than concentrating on work or what their gonna do next week. I use to have really bad anxiety and was having a war within my mind that I was afraid of losing.I was trying to change myself but I did not know how. Then one day I read an article on the internet that ones outlook on life can effect ones attitude and the way other people see him/her. So I went through out the day everyday trying this idea.

I would always get rid of my bad thoughts and force good body language and good thoughts in myself.Of course it did not work right away but eventually it did work,and I saw the difference in how I acted and felt towards life and other people, and how other people acted towards me.I felt like an alpha male or king where ever I went.

I do believe that the mind can change ones reality but only to a degree.I don't expect that things will happen by just meditating on them.I do believe the combination of mind and effort will bring a person closer to their goals faster.


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