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Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison.
    #10386387 - 05/23/09 01:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Holy fuck I can't belive how absolutely brainwashing religion can be. Ever sinse I was a child my parents have been shoving these "truths" down my throat. I was raised as a mormon and my parents were super religious. Every sunday I would go to church and have all these ideas shoved in my head as if they were fact. I had to associate with mormons all the time and growing up in utah I was surrounded by them.

I wasn't even able to think for myself or think straight. I was always being told what was right and what was wrong and what was true and what was false. Once a month at church we would have fast and testimony meetings. Church members would go up and tell you how they "knew" the lds church was the only true church on the face of the earth with out a doubt. And parents would encorage their children to go up and tell everyone how they knew it was true too.

So I believed all the shit I was surrounded by without questioning it until one day I was like wait.... WTF is going on. I convinced myself that these mormons I was raised by must be right because they told me they knew it was true... But then I realized everyone "knows" their church is true.

Lol the terrorists flew into the fucking twin towers because they "knew" they would be greeted by thousands of virgins in heaven. And then I looked around and realized how fucked up and brainwashing religion has been to everyone in the world and how convinced everyone was that they were right.

I know how this is all obvious to those who wern't raised by super religious families but it's a completely different story if you have been brainwashed since birth.

So ya this was when I was around 16 and then I started realizing most humans are just full of shit and that we always have been and always will be. Lol were just a bunch of dumb fucks running around who have no fucking idea whats really going on and some people are just like fuck it I'm just going to make up some shit and convince everyone else that I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Then I convinced myself that humans created religion because we are to terrified to face mortality and so we created religion and the afterlife as a way to comfort everyone and give us all hope. So then I became an athiest who was convinced life had no meaning and that when we die thats it and that the only way to understand reality is through cold lifeless science. Well after following this train of thought for a while I started getting really depressed and feeling hopeless. 

Around this time I was thinking everyone was just full of shit and nobody really knew what they were talking about. So then I started questioning the government and their anti drug propoganda. "thank you bill hicks"

So I decided why not? So I started smoking weed and found it fascinating. I was really interested in the psychedelic side of weed and I started to reevaluate my life and the way I thought about every thing.

Then I tried shrooms for the first time and had my fragile mind torn to shreds. Lol I sat on the floor repeating oh shit...oh shit...oh shit...oh shit over and over again for three hours straight. After I finally started comming down I just looked at my freinds and I was like what the fuck is going on? What's really going on? I came to the conclusion that just because humans and religion are full of shit doesen't mean that spirituality is full of shit.

Religion is like having a middle man when your trying to get weed. Why go through an unnecessary proccess like religion when you could go straight to the source and have a true spiritual experience with things like shrooms, lsd or dmt.

I don't want to hear an old guy ramble on about "God" when I could just experience "God" for myself. Sadly my parents don't understand what the fuck I am talking about.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that even though religious nuts are full of shit it doesen't mean that "God" (however you want to define it) doesn't exist.
Shamanism > Religion and it is probably how religion got started in the first place.

Edited by Poptart (05/23/09 03:54 PM)

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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: Poptart]
    #10386423 - 05/23/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Then I convinced myself that humans created religion because we are to terrified to face mortality and so we created religion and the afterlife as a way to comfort everyone and give us all hope. So then I became an athiest who was convinced life had no meaning and that when we die thats it and that the only way to understand reality is through cold lifeless science. Well after following this train of thought for a while I started getting really depressed and feeling hopeless.




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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: Poptart]
    #10386891 - 05/23/09 03:37 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I feel for ya man.



Take a deep breath and search for truth inside, God is alive but he cannot be explained in a series of doctrines.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: Poptart]
    #10386935 - 05/23/09 03:51 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

athieism takes just as much beleif in the unknown as religion. People CANT know. Its not for us to understand.

There is no way to know if there is OR if there isnt.


I believe that whatever energy is inside my body, that is keeping me alive, is just a part of the whole and when i die it goes back to the whole. Energy transfer.


aside from that  ????????.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: sui]
    #10387143 - 05/23/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The pagan drums should wake the sleeping of the fools
to forget the church's language


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: sandman_130]
    #10389275 - 05/24/09 02:07 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I feel for ya man.



Take a deep breath and search for truth inside, God is alive but he cannot be explained in a series of doctrines.




God doesn't exist. Don't spread shit on a shit sandwich.

OP, GOD IS NOT REAL! THAT'S THE TRUTH!

When you die you die for good, period! Their is no God, no afterlife, no heaven or hell. We ARE a bunch of stupid little fucks on an awesome planet with awesome plants and animals. Humans are shit, their pieces of walking shit!

Fuck religion and their crazy ideas.

Were not even a spec of dust in this goddamned universe.

Humans will NOT be around forever.

I' am SO glad that my parents are not religious, Ive been to church less then 10 times in my life I think. I feel for you man.


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There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: hpi]
    #10389296 - 05/24/09 02:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

and you know that how?


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: Poptart]
    #10389371 - 05/24/09 02:58 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

:urstupid:


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #10389377 - 05/24/09 03:01 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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:urstupid:




Why is the OP stupid?

I think you are for saying that


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: hpi]
    #10389408 - 05/24/09 03:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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hpi said:
Quote:

sandman_130 said:
I feel for ya man.



Take a deep breath and search for truth inside, God is alive but he cannot be explained in a series of doctrines.




God doesn't exist. Don't spread shit on a shit sandwich.

OP, GOD IS NOT REAL! THAT'S THE TRUTH!

When you die you die for good, period! Their is no God, no afterlife, no heaven or hell. We ARE a bunch of stupid little fucks on an awesome planet with awesome plants and animals. Humans are shit, their pieces of walking shit!

Fuck religion and their crazy ideas.

Were not even a spec of dust in this goddamned universe.

Humans will NOT be around forever.

I' am SO glad that my parents are not religious, Ive been to church less then 10 times in my life I think. I feel for you man.




I agree


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10389411 - 05/24/09 03:20 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

IMO it takes just as much faith to believe that ther is nothing as to believ that there is something.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: sui]
    #10389413 - 05/24/09 03:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know.... maybe.  But there is a lot of evidence to say that the bible is bullshit for example.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10389447 - 05/24/09 03:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

where is the evidence that there is nothing?


and i mean beside the LACK of evidence.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: sui]
    #10389454 - 05/24/09 03:36 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well no evidence to prove a "god" doesn't exist.  But I was just saying like the bible says the world was crated in 7 days and from two people (adam and eve)...obviously bullshit.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10389479 - 05/24/09 03:44 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

True but Christianity is only one view of spirituality. So far science, despite all its breakthroughs, has been unable to give any explanation for how existence came to be in its fundamental form.

This being said i completely empathize with how difficult it would be to brought up in a controlling religious environment. I think religion often brings out the worst in humanity. But i also think ultra materialistic atheistic view points can be equally damaging as they are capable of removing all meaning from peoples lives.

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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10389481 - 05/24/09 03:45 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

exctly there is no evidence to say that either is true.

I know there is more to whats going on around me that i can ever imagine, thats about it.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: DimensionX]
    #10389482 - 05/24/09 03:45 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The Big Bang ?


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10389489 - 05/24/09 03:47 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

the big bang theory was written by religious fanatic's.  I refuse to believe in "science" and the god they call physic's.


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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #10389490 - 05/24/09 03:49 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The big bang is a discription of a few instances after the universe was created, it dosent explain the fundamental moment of creation. There is no data or explanation of the fundamental moment of creation or existence.

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Re: Growing up in an insanely religious family is like being in a mental prison. [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10389492 - 05/24/09 03:49 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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