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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9817958 - 02/18/09 12:27 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24990508-5001021,00.html
February 01, 2009 12:00am

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THE full extent of the disease plaguing the NSW health system can be revealed, with an analysis showing every one of the state's 220 public hospitals is either battling to pay bills, struggling to attract staff or short of beds.

Experts have told The Sunday Telegraph the health crisis has for the first time permeated the entire state, extending from major Sydney hospitals to rural and regional centres in Moree, Broken Hill and Albury.

Dr Brian Morton, president of the NSW branch of the Australian Medical Association (AMA), said the state of the public health system had plunged to an unprecedented low.









This is why I'm glad I don't live in NSW anymore. That state is verging on bankrupcty. Its health crisis is well known.

Also, unlike in the UK, in Australia if you're not satisfied with the public health service you can always pay to go private. You can get a tax rebate if you do that.


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9820268 - 02/18/09 02:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

According to documents filed earlier this month, the welfare mom who now has 14 children under the age of 8 hasn't made any payments on her home since May, 2008 -- she's behind $23,224.98.

Obamas Mortgage Bailout is just in time!!!!!


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9820322 - 02/18/09 02:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That's her father in arrears.  The sow has never owned anything and I believe he has filed for bankruptcy quite some time ago.


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9824938 - 02/19/09 07:29 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

The kids should be put down and the mother forcibly sterilized. That's at least one thing I think the Chinese got right.

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(CNN) -- The California home where Nadya Suleman plans to raise her 14 children is at risk of foreclosure, CNN affiliate KTLA reported Wednesday.

Los Angeles County property records show a notice of mortgage default was filed Feb. 9 against the home of Suleman's mother, Angela Suleman, the station reported.

Angela Suleman is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments and the three-bedroom house could be sold at an auction beginning May 5, documents say.

Suleman has said that she was raising her six children in her mother's home and planned to raise her newborn octuplets there.

News of the foreclosure is the latest twist in the tale of Suleman and her children.

Suleman, 33, had the octuplets through fertility treatments, despite being single and already having six young children and no clear source of income.

The television station could not reach Suleman or her mother for comment, because the phone number at the home had been disconnected.

A spokeswoman for Suleman recently quit because she had been flooded with death threats from people angry that Suleman is receiving disability payments and food stamps to help raise her children.

That spokeswoman, Joann Killeen, told CNN's Larry King on Monday that grandmother Angela Suleman had taken care of Suleman's six children at the home while Suleman was on bed rest for 10 weeks before giving birth to the octuplets.

"Grandma is tired," Killeen said. "Grandma and grandpa are in their 70s. You know, they've raised a daughter. I'm sure they didn't think that they were going to be helping to raise six children."

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Diploid]
    #9824985 - 02/19/09 07:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

> The kids should be put down and the mother forcibly sterilized

Apparently, Darwin already tried to keep the waste from breeding, but she went to a fertility clinic and got around the problem.  Simply sterilization isn't going to be enough to stop this woman.

> I'm sure they didn't think that they were going to be helping to raise six children.

Make that 14 children.

I still say that bastard Doctor(s) that knocked her up should be strapped with all costs of raising the eight children that he is responsible for helping create.


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: UseURBrain]
    #9825036 - 02/19/09 07:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

On top of that, people are making hateful comments and don't even know the whole story.

You're the one who doesn't know the whole story.

She made it clear to the doctors from the start that if more than one or all of the implants 'take' she was going to have all of them. She insisted that all of them be implanted and insisted they all go to term even though so many babies would almost certainly end up premature and at risk for medical problems. She ruled out the option to reduce the number right from the start.

So get the story straight before you accuse others of having it wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, that the doctors went ahead and implanted these parasites even though the mother made it clear from the start that she wouldn't allow any to be aborted even if all of them implanted successfully is all the more reason to make the doctors pay to raise them.

I'm fucking sick of paying for other people's self-made problems. And besides, there are six fucking billion people burdening this planet. WTF is wrong with you people calling this a 'blessing'?


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9826697 - 02/19/09 02:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Did You see the stretch marks on that cunt. Looks like a road map of New York.Made me so sick that I told my fiance were going to adopt cause I'm not fucking up her smoking body.

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: therron]
    #9846765 - 02/22/09 08:56 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

I'm stocked the last kid didnt get up and walk out on its own..


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9852631 - 02/23/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

This thread reminds me of a quote.

"The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all the people." -Noam Chomsky

Don't buy into the fear mongering, don't let yourself be easily fooled and coerced.

Edited by Man Unkind (02/23/09 08:31 PM)

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Man Unkind]
    #9852775 - 02/23/09 08:55 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Noam:  Anything America does on the world stage is inherently evil.
Lefty Idiots:  Preach it, Noam!
Noam:  The corporations and the powers that be use consumerism and sensationalism to keep you compliant and distracted.
Lefty Idiots:  Yes, Noam!  Oh YES!!
Noam:  Buy my tapes and listen to my bland and monotone speaking.
Lefty Idiots:  Yes Master!

Fuck that Leftist douchebag.  The more of his tapes and books you buy the richer you make that over-educated buffoon.  How's that for capitalism?

I'm just pissed that the disgusting bitch in question is taking my tax money to raise a bunch of kids that she can't afford to support.  :shrug:

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Brasco]
    #9853190 - 02/23/09 09:58 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Are you trying to pass that off as a legitimate argument or are you actually trying to make yourself look like an idiot?

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Man Unkind]
    #9853781 - 02/23/09 11:52 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I think Chomsky is a puke.  :shrug:

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Brasco]
    #9853833 - 02/24/09 12:03 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Wow, what an excellent rebuttal of Chomsky's statement. :rolleyes:


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: zouden]
    #9853912 - 02/24/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

He engages in conspiracy theory stuff about how all of us "proles" are brainwashed by media and government.  It plays well to his Lefty fanbase but has little relation to reality.

However, I can somewhat agree with his analysis of American foreign policy.  When he claims we do what is in our interest even if that means fucking with other people he is correct.  I however have no problem with that.  Foreign policy is not meant to be friendly...it is meant to be selfish.

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Brasco]
    #9853982 - 02/24/09 12:58 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Brasco said:
He engages in conspiracy theory stuff about how all of us "proles" are brainwashed by media and government.  It plays well to his Lefty fanbase but has little relation to reality.




Noam Chomsky is a conspiracy theorist? What? He doesn't even believe 9/11 was perpetrated by the government.

Of course corporate America is trying to indoctrinate us with mindless consumerism, it's no conspiracy though, we call it marketing....


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Foreign policy is not meant to be friendly...it is meant to be selfish.




Only for the nationalist.

Edited by Man Unkind (02/24/09 01:06 AM)

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Diploid]
    #9863151 - 02/25/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

Looks like she's getting a movie deal after all... :rofl2:

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Octuplet mom Nadya Suleman fears hospital may not release babies

BY Rich Schapiro
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Updated Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 12:38 PM

You could be seeing a whole lot more of Octomom.

A major porn company has offered octuplet mom Nadya Suleman $1 million to star in a skin flick.

Vivid Entertainment is even willing to sweeten the deal by giving Suleman's massive family full medical and dental insurance if she agrees to get naughty in multiple videos, TMZ.com reported.

"Your movie would be distributed under our Vivid-Celeb imprint, which has released titles starring such personalities as Pamela Anderson, Kim Kardashian, and most recently, former Miss USA Kelli McCarty," Vivid Entertainment Chairman Steven Hirsch wrote in a letter to Suleman.

Though it's unclear if Suleman is considering the offer, there's no doubt she could use the cash.

The 33-year-old unemployed mother of 14 depended on food stamps and disability to care for her six children even born before she became known as Octomom.

She's been living with her half-dozen kids in her mother's three-bedroom home in suburban Los Angeles, but the house is under threat of foreclosure.

And that's not the end of her problems.

Suleman may not get the chance to raise her eight newborns, it was revealed yesterday.

Talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw says the overburdened mom called him to complain that hospital officials are concerned she can't handle the load.

"What she is telling me is that unless and until she has a better living arrangement, that they are not likely to release the children to her," McGraw told the Los Angeles Times.

Kaiser Permanente officials declined to comment on Suleman's case.

"Any conversations that the mother may or may not have had on this topic are private and we could not discuss them," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson.

Daily News


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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Diploid]
    #9863230 - 02/25/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

Okay, one, I know Dr. Phil likes to play "pretend psychologist" but what is this shit:
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"What she is telling me is that unless and until she has a better living arrangement, that they are not likely to release the children to her," McGraw told the Los Angeles Times.






He's just blabbing things she told him?  Dr. Phil is a jackass but this is totally over the top.  Betraying her confidence for no fucking reason other than to generate harmful publicity.  I really have no idea how anyone can stand Dr. Phil.


Second, WTF.  Can hospitals refuse to release children?  I really hope this story mistates the law here, cuz this is bullshit.  The hospitals should have no powers to refuse release for adults and for minors or incompetents they should get only perhaps 48 hours to allow a court to consider the matter.




Point of discussion:  Would it be a criminal offense for her not to take the porn deal?  She can't fucking afford these kids and they are likely to be suffering as a result of their substandard care.  She can get a massive amount of money to help the situation.  If she refuses would she be defrauding the state by being underemployed?  Would she be abusing her children by not taking reasonable steps to care for them?  Seriously, the porn wouldn't interfere with the care at all and would only help.  How can she not do it?

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: johnm214]
    #9865800 - 02/25/09 08:43 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

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johnm214 said:
Okay, one, I know Dr. Phil likes to play "pretend psychologist"





while he may be a tool, his credentials speak for themselves

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McGraw graduated in 1975 from Midwestern State University with a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology. He went on to earn a master's degree in experimental psychology in 1976, and a Ph.D in clinical psychology in 1979 at the University of North Texas,[6] where his dissertation was titled "Rheumatoid Arthritis: A Psychological Intervention." After run-ins with several faculty members[7], McGraw was guided through the doctoral program by Frank Lawlis, Ph.D., who later became the primary contributing psychologist for the Dr. Phil television show.[8]



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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Diploid]
    #9865994 - 02/25/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

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Diploid said:
Looks like she's getting a movie deal after all... :rofl2:

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Octuplet mom Nadya Suleman fears hospital may not release babies

BY Rich Schapiro
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Updated Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 12:38 PM

You could be seeing a whole lot more of Octomom.

A major porn company has offered octuplet mom Nadya Suleman $1 million to star in a skin flick.

Vivid Entertainment is even willing to sweeten the deal by giving Suleman's massive family full medical and dental insurance if she agrees to get naughty in multiple videos, TMZ.com reported.

"Your movie would be distributed under our Vivid-Celeb imprint, which has released titles starring such personalities as Pamela Anderson, Kim Kardashian, and most recently, former Miss USA Kelli McCarty," Vivid Entertainment Chairman Steven Hirsch wrote in a letter to Suleman.

Though it's unclear if Suleman is considering the offer, there's no doubt she could use the cash.




That shit is hilarious.

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Re: Welfare mom now has 14 children under the age of 8.... [Re: Man Unkind]
    #10382117 - 05/22/09 01:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is proposing to completely eliminate the state’s welfare program for families, medical insurance for low-income children and Cal Grants cash assistance to college and university students."

she's going to need that movie deal now!


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