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Offline420chazz
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First Grow
    #10373926 - 05/21/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Hey shroomerites,
i noc'd up my first grow yesterday. PF Tek. naturally i'm doing the noob thing and freaking when i don't see mycelium in the first 2 days.
PF Tek for simple minds from fungifun is the tek that i followed, i have some polypropylene plastic jars and some glass tumblers with foil caps. Steamed for 1.5 hours and noc'd up with 1 ml Golden Teacher spore soltion each. Print was from ralphster, made up my own syringes.
Just a few quick questions, what should the BRF substrate look like from outside the jars? mine looks a little slick with condensation all around the inside. no water pooling in the bottom. and how long should i expect to be waiting before i see mycelium? jars are in a 26C incubator.
This thread may end up serving as a small journal for my grow. i'll get around to posting some pics some time.

cheers,
chazz

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OfflineMrMushy
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10373943 - 05/21/09 02:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Mine look exactly the same. First grow, inoculated with Ecuador 8 days ago.  Just got some mycelium growth overnight.  Be very patient, its an annoyingly long process unluckily


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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10373997 - 05/21/09 02:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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420chazz said:
Just a few quick questions, what should the BRF substrate look like from outside the jars? mine looks a little slick with condensation all around the inside. no water pooling in the bottom. and how long should i expect to be waiting before i see mycelium? jars are in a 26C incubator.
cheers,
chazz




Hi chazz,
the BRF-cake shouldn't look slickly at all. It should have a grainy texture, moist but not wet. I don't know if you better kick em away but at least it will last much longer to fully colonize the cake. First mycelium will be able to see on day 3-4, if you used the syringe without soaking the spores for 24h it will take a little longer.
MFG Mindbender

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Re: First Grow [Re: Mindbender_ZP]
    #10374055 - 05/21/09 02:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

When my friend did a PF tek for the first time (Still on going 100% colonized now :laugh:) we waited 7 days with no growth.
This may have been because of the low temperature. Although, many people say don't worry until after about 10 days.

(Try and give them time to grow without you peeking :wink:)

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: Mindbender_ZP]
    #10374144 - 05/21/09 03:17 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Mindbender_ZP said:


Hi chazz,
the BRF-cake shouldn't look slickly at all. It should have a grainy texture, moist but not wet. I don't know if you better kick em away but at least it will last much longer to fully colonize the cake. First mycelium will be able to see on day 3-4, if you used the syringe without soaking the spores for 24h it will take a little longer.
MFG Mindbender




i couldn't really think of an apropriate word to describe the appearance.... it doesn't look sticky let me put it that way. i'll post a pic in a while. i followed the ratios of the tek though so i'm sure the moisture content is fine.
chazz

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10384434 - 05/22/09 11:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

YEE myc growth on 3/4 jars inoculated 3 days ago.
no growth on the LC.
other 4 jars inoculated 2 days ago, no growth.
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10384586 - 05/23/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

My best pftek jar ever which took for fucking ever but put out like none other didn't show any mycelium for almost three weeks.


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Re: First Grow [Re: bigsam]
    #10384588 - 05/23/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hurry up and wait.

The dryer the jar the faster it colonizes. Try loosening the lids just a little to help lower moisture. That has worked for me before.


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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: bigsam]
    #10394605 - 05/25/09 04:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

mycelium


chazz

Edited by 420chazz (05/26/09 02:47 AM)

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10395112 - 05/25/09 08:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

look i know you are all excited to see growth. but dont you think you should wait to post pictures when you have something pretty to show everyone? like some fat fruits or a sweet pinset? :mushroomgrow:
just sayin..whats the point of showing pictures of your germinating jars? i dont get it.
-prismism


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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10395184 - 05/25/09 09:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

me either prisim

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Re: First Grow [Re: HorusTh3Chrous]
    #10395278 - 05/25/09 09:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

You both sound like some haters... Let the man show his jars off, he's proud! And he's got something proud to be about, he's a noob and he's accomplishing something! You were all noobs at one point, I'm a noob right now so I understand where he's coming from!  Show off your pics brew!

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: Keefeco]
    #10400193 - 05/26/09 02:46 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ehh whats a journal without pictures.
you didn't really have to come in here, so i see no point in complaining, what do you wish to acheive?
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10400269 - 05/26/09 03:20 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Keep posting pics, Keefeco has a valid point. :thumbup: so far on this grow, GL.

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: amylase]
    #10480602 - 06/10/09 01:03 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Got 2 cakes out of 6 in the FC, they colonised quickly. 12 hour dunk followed by roll.
1 cake contam'd, other 4 are going a little longer.
FC is a shotgun, 2 inches of perlite, lots of holes. RH up around 90. 6 hours daylight spectrum light from a CFL per day.
will update with pics soon, a mate has my cam.
so, the big question. how long before i can expect pins? i suppose it's relative to genetics and idividual substrain etc.
cheers
chazz

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10492668 - 06/12/09 04:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

pics
still no pins.
1. FC
2. Hygrometer showing 93ish
3. cakes in FC
4. cake being dunked




chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10492688 - 06/12/09 04:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Chazz...I had my fully colonized and consolidated cakes in the fruiting chamber for 2-3 days before I saw the first pin. From what I understand this figure can vary greatly depending on conditions.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10424094

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: Mystagogue]
    #10492838 - 06/12/09 06:10 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah man should be any day now.
nice grow! i hope i get some pinsets like that.
respect
chazz

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10515034 - 06/16/09 02:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

OK guys
so i have my fc set up EXACTLY as described in RRs video. a few inches of perlite, many holes, misting and fanning 3 times a day, RH is 95% constantly, temps 18-20C. 12/12 6500K CFL. still seeing no pins and it's been about a week. some of the cakes are getting little fluffy offshoots of mycelium, but they aren't hyphal knots.

is this a normal amount of time to wait? i think i may have birthed some of the cakes a little early, not leaving them enough time to consolidate. they were all 100% when i birthed them, but i only gave them about 4 days to consolidate. is this something that could slow down a pinset?

cheers
chazz

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Offline420chazz
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10521183 - 06/17/09 01:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

gonna go ahead and bump this, still nothing.
chazz

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