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Offline420chazz
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First Grow
    #10373926 - 05/21/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Hey shroomerites,
i noc'd up my first grow yesterday. PF Tek. naturally i'm doing the noob thing and freaking when i don't see mycelium in the first 2 days.
PF Tek for simple minds from fungifun is the tek that i followed, i have some polypropylene plastic jars and some glass tumblers with foil caps. Steamed for 1.5 hours and noc'd up with 1 ml Golden Teacher spore soltion each. Print was from ralphster, made up my own syringes.
Just a few quick questions, what should the BRF substrate look like from outside the jars? mine looks a little slick with condensation all around the inside. no water pooling in the bottom. and how long should i expect to be waiting before i see mycelium? jars are in a 26C incubator.
This thread may end up serving as a small journal for my grow. i'll get around to posting some pics some time.

cheers,
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10373943 - 05/21/09 02:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Mine look exactly the same. First grow, inoculated with Ecuador 8 days ago.  Just got some mycelium growth overnight.  Be very patient, its an annoyingly long process unluckily


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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10373997 - 05/21/09 02:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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420chazz said:
Just a few quick questions, what should the BRF substrate look like from outside the jars? mine looks a little slick with condensation all around the inside. no water pooling in the bottom. and how long should i expect to be waiting before i see mycelium? jars are in a 26C incubator.
cheers,
chazz




Hi chazz,
the BRF-cake shouldn't look slickly at all. It should have a grainy texture, moist but not wet. I don't know if you better kick em away but at least it will last much longer to fully colonize the cake. First mycelium will be able to see on day 3-4, if you used the syringe without soaking the spores for 24h it will take a little longer.
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Re: First Grow [Re: Mindbender_ZP]
    #10374055 - 05/21/09 02:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

When my friend did a PF tek for the first time (Still on going 100% colonized now :laugh:) we waited 7 days with no growth.
This may have been because of the low temperature. Although, many people say don't worry until after about 10 days.

(Try and give them time to grow without you peeking :wink:)

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Re: First Grow [Re: Mindbender_ZP]
    #10374144 - 05/21/09 03:17 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Mindbender_ZP said:


Hi chazz,
the BRF-cake shouldn't look slickly at all. It should have a grainy texture, moist but not wet. I don't know if you better kick em away but at least it will last much longer to fully colonize the cake. First mycelium will be able to see on day 3-4, if you used the syringe without soaking the spores for 24h it will take a little longer.
MFG Mindbender




i couldn't really think of an apropriate word to describe the appearance.... it doesn't look sticky let me put it that way. i'll post a pic in a while. i followed the ratios of the tek though so i'm sure the moisture content is fine.
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10384434 - 05/22/09 11:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

YEE myc growth on 3/4 jars inoculated 3 days ago.
no growth on the LC.
other 4 jars inoculated 2 days ago, no growth.
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10384586 - 05/23/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

My best pftek jar ever which took for fucking ever but put out like none other didn't show any mycelium for almost three weeks.


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Re: First Grow [Re: bigsam]
    #10384588 - 05/23/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hurry up and wait.

The dryer the jar the faster it colonizes. Try loosening the lids just a little to help lower moisture. That has worked for me before.


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Re: First Grow [Re: bigsam]
    #10394605 - 05/25/09 04:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

mycelium


chazz

Edited by 420chazz (05/26/09 02:47 AM)

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10395112 - 05/25/09 08:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

look i know you are all excited to see growth. but dont you think you should wait to post pictures when you have something pretty to show everyone? like some fat fruits or a sweet pinset? :mushroomgrow:
just sayin..whats the point of showing pictures of your germinating jars? i dont get it.
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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10395184 - 05/25/09 09:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

me either prisim

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Re: First Grow [Re: HorusTh3Chrous]
    #10395278 - 05/25/09 09:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

You both sound like some haters... Let the man show his jars off, he's proud! And he's got something proud to be about, he's a noob and he's accomplishing something! You were all noobs at one point, I'm a noob right now so I understand where he's coming from!  Show off your pics brew!

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Re: First Grow [Re: Keefeco]
    #10400193 - 05/26/09 02:46 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ehh whats a journal without pictures.
you didn't really have to come in here, so i see no point in complaining, what do you wish to acheive?
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10400269 - 05/26/09 03:20 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Keep posting pics, Keefeco has a valid point. :thumbup: so far on this grow, GL.

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Re: First Grow [Re: amylase]
    #10480602 - 06/10/09 01:03 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Got 2 cakes out of 6 in the FC, they colonised quickly. 12 hour dunk followed by roll.
1 cake contam'd, other 4 are going a little longer.
FC is a shotgun, 2 inches of perlite, lots of holes. RH up around 90. 6 hours daylight spectrum light from a CFL per day.
will update with pics soon, a mate has my cam.
so, the big question. how long before i can expect pins? i suppose it's relative to genetics and idividual substrain etc.
cheers
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10492668 - 06/12/09 04:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

pics
still no pins.
1. FC
2. Hygrometer showing 93ish
3. cakes in FC
4. cake being dunked




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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10492688 - 06/12/09 04:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Chazz...I had my fully colonized and consolidated cakes in the fruiting chamber for 2-3 days before I saw the first pin. From what I understand this figure can vary greatly depending on conditions.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10424094

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Re: First Grow [Re: Mystagogue]
    #10492838 - 06/12/09 06:10 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah man should be any day now.
nice grow! i hope i get some pinsets like that.
respect
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10515034 - 06/16/09 02:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

OK guys
so i have my fc set up EXACTLY as described in RRs video. a few inches of perlite, many holes, misting and fanning 3 times a day, RH is 95% constantly, temps 18-20C. 12/12 6500K CFL. still seeing no pins and it's been about a week. some of the cakes are getting little fluffy offshoots of mycelium, but they aren't hyphal knots.

is this a normal amount of time to wait? i think i may have birthed some of the cakes a little early, not leaving them enough time to consolidate. they were all 100% when i birthed them, but i only gave them about 4 days to consolidate. is this something that could slow down a pinset?

cheers
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10521183 - 06/17/09 01:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

gonna go ahead and bump this, still nothing.
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10521242 - 06/17/09 01:47 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

From my knowledge on the subject (which is not very great..... yet) your temps may be a bit low, which will slow down the growth of the fruits. If find it hard to keep the temps up at night. Give it time, they will come. I got some pretty potent boomers from low temps.But I'm no expert.


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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10521259 - 06/17/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It usually does need that extra time to consolidate... Birthing early can delay pinning to a certain extent. Just wait it out, you seem to be doing everything right. 5 days max and I rekon you'll see pins. 1 week is not long. :thumbup: Post pics when those bad boys start fruiting :yesnod:


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Re: First Grow [Re: LieSERGIC]
    #10521262 - 06/17/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I also found it difficult to judge when my cakes  needed misting. If you haven't already check out double ended cakes, it helped my cakes a lot.


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Re: First Grow [Re: LieSERGIC]
    #10521290 - 06/17/09 01:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i did a double end case on a few of them. thanks guys, i'm sure they'll pin. myc looks happy, one of them bruised a little from moisture loss early on and i re-dunked it and it went white again.

i'll update when i get some pins.
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10528791 - 06/18/09 06:46 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)



are these hyphal knots?

chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10528828 - 06/18/09 07:03 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Sure are! Good Job and Good Luck.

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10529136 - 06/18/09 09:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

bro take your time thy will start fruiting soon mine were in the FC for about a week and 2 days before the first pins started to come in just give it time

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10529531 - 06/18/09 10:36 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

420chazz said:


are these hyphal knots?

chazz




lol

Edited by prismism (06/18/09 10:37 AM)

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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10534256 - 06/19/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

gtfo prism. i know you think you're god, but try not to fuck up everyone elses day.
pull the stick out of your ass and be helpful, rather than a faggot.

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10534910 - 06/19/09 03:11 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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420chazz said:
gtfo prism. i know you think you're god, but try not to fuck up everyone elses day.
pull the stick out of your ass and be helpful, rather than a faggot.




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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10534951 - 06/19/09 03:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

420chazz said:
gtfo prism. i know you think you're god, but try not to fuck up everyone elses day.
pull the stick out of your ass and be helpful, rather than a faggot.




Go easy on prism.  Look he's got a bandana around his neck, clearly a hipster.  hipster = low self esteem.  He need needs to laugh at other to feel good.  Go easy on him.


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Re: First Grow [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #10535064 - 06/19/09 05:07 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Go easy on prism.  Look he's got a bandana around his neck, clearly a hipster.  hipster = low self esteem.  He need needs to laugh at other to feel good.  Go easy on him.




ahahahaha yeah man.

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10535521 - 06/19/09 08:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

go easy on me. im a hipster.
hey nice knots buddy. keep the pictures of those sweet knots comin.


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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10535719 - 06/19/09 09:27 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

prismism said:
go easy on me. im a hipster.
hey nice knots buddy. keep the pictures of those sweet knots comin.



I loled


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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10539118 - 06/19/09 07:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

prismism said:
go easy on me. im a hipster.
hey nice knots buddy. keep the pictures of those sweet knots comin.



you know that the reason i asked is because i haven't done this before, so i don't know what i'm looking at.
i wonder how many people you impress every day with your huge ego.

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10539240 - 06/19/09 08:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

my whole thing is..
uploading photos of what you believe to be knots is pointless. your cakes will fruit eventually so why dont you just be patient and quit wondering/worrying whether you are seeing pins or knots or whatever. just chill out and when you have pretty mushrooms then uload pictures.
thats all im sayin.


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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10539807 - 06/19/09 09:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

relax, he's just excited and wants to show it off

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Re: First Grow [Re: prismism]
    #10540159 - 06/19/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

prismism said:
my whole thing is..
uploading photos of what you believe to be knots is pointless. your cakes will fruit eventually so why dont you just be patient and quit wondering/worrying whether you are seeing pins or knots or whatever. just chill out and when you have pretty mushrooms then uload pictures.
thats all im sayin.



this is a fair point. i'm just an excitable noob.
anyway, forget about it man.

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10545636 - 06/21/09 01:21 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

BALETED

Edited by 420chazz (06/21/09 03:42 AM)

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10546054 - 06/21/09 03:43 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

ok so i used the search engine for a while and found out that optimum fruiting temps are about 70 F, where i'd had mine sitting at about 60F.
i chucked the FC in my incubator set to 70F. good decision?

chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10548656 - 06/21/09 04:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

bump. still nothin.
beginning to think there may be a problem, it's been 2 weeks for some of the cakes.
is this normal or is there something definately wrong?

cheers
chazz

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10552079 - 06/22/09 03:29 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

what is this i don't even....

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10552117 - 06/22/09 03:43 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I see a healthy cake and an impatient person? what's your RH? plenty of FAE? pinning triggers are there but not being fed..


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Re: First Grow [Re: Izangi]
    #10552165 - 06/22/09 04:06 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

haha dude there are pins in the pic above.
i'm happy now
sorry for being a nuisance, i'm a noob.

RH is 95, shotgun terrarium misting/fanning 4-5 times a day, 12/12 6500k.

will post update in a few days.
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10574685 - 06/26/09 01:05 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Update

4 days after the appearance of first pins. they've popped up all over the place on 3 of the cakes, they appear to be growing pretty slow but i assume it's due to low temps. they look normal.
here are a few pics




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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10574730 - 06/26/09 01:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I had pins like taht when I went away for work for a week, I came back and they were pretty much everywhere, Only got mushrooms another two days later, That was like9 days from whats in teh pic there to actual shrooms.

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Re: First Grow [Re: Fleadh]
    #10574900 - 06/26/09 02:03 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah man i think the cold temps are slowing down growth. they look fine though.
i can wait haha
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10584710 - 06/28/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

update


do these shrooms look a little small, or is this typical of the PF tek??

in any case, should be harvesting in the next few days.
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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10584721 - 06/28/09 01:57 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Those shrooms look healthy.  If you want bigger shrooms grow on shit.


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Re: First Grow [Re: george castanza]
    #10584746 - 06/28/09 02:07 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

cheers for your input man.
yeah i'm thinking about grains spawned to bulk for a future grow. need a PC first.
i'm gonna consider this a succesful first grow.

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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10584754 - 06/28/09 02:11 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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i'm gonna consider this a succesful first grow.






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Re: First Grow [Re: 420chazz]
    #10584774 - 06/28/09 02:20 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If you do it right,
they will come.

Keep a little faith in your process, and watch the magic happen. Contams usually are obvious, and you know when your grow is a failure. If they're not contammed, and pretty close to ideal conditions you will be successful. Especially with the strain you're using.

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Re: First Grow [Re: Scukels]
    #10590809 - 06/29/09 03:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

pulled 25 grams wet off the first cake and took a print. light spore deposit but enough for a syringe. that cake is in the dunk now.
gonna harvest the second tomorrow.

chazz

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