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didjin_d
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Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters
#10361956 - 05/18/09 11:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I cannot seem to find the info anywhere on this site or on the web... 
I have a colonized plate, but want to make sure I don't accidentally kill it. Has anyone here succesfully fruited it? did it require anything other than grain spawn to pasteurized cereal straw?

Thanks in advance, -DD
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: didjin_d] 1
#10362111 - 05/19/09 12:11 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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spawn run 75-95 humidity 80-95 duration- 5-10 days fresh air exchange 1 no light
Primordia formation initiation temp 80-0 humidity 90-100 co2 1000-5000 Fae 4-5 light 250-500
fruit body development temp 80-90 humidity 85-95 duration 6-10 days co2 1000-5000 Fae 4-5 light 500-750 lux
chop straw 4-5" , soaked and stacked for no more then 2 days. Moisture content 75% , COTTON SEED HULLS SOAKED 2-7 DAYS, ALLOWED TO FERMENT , then layered into straw to 10-20% , for outdoor cultivation spawn is added directly to cottonseed hulls as each layer is built, the mass is covered with goal of obtaining at least 90 degrees for next 5-7 days
yields are a lot better if if substrate is fermented or short cycle composted
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: Grzyby] 1
#10363354 - 05/19/09 08:33 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just don't make the mistake I did ten years ago. I put a master slant in the refrigerator and promptly killed it. You need to store the mycelium at normal room temp. RR
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: RogerRabbit]
#10363381 - 05/19/09 08:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is it preferable to store the culture as a slant or in liquid?
Lipa
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: lipa]
#10363389 - 05/19/09 08:47 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't ask me. In my northern mountain climate we get about three days a year that are 85F, and even then it gets down to nearly freezing at night. That's one species I won't attempt, even though they're quite tasty. RR
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: RogerRabbit]
#10363398 - 05/19/09 08:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok ..... Thanks for the response
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didjin_d
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: Grzyby]
#10363856 - 05/19/09 11:16 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info Grzyby. I'm not sure how to "ferment" straw as opposed to contaminate it ... so I think I'm just going to try to keep it clean this go around. This project will be attempted indoors to prevent night time temperature drops.
RR, I've kept my culture at room temp since I recieved it.
If anyone out there has tried their hand at this and has any observations/advice I'm all ears!
Thanks, -DD
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: didjin_d]
#10364206 - 05/19/09 12:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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When you think paddy straw think compost piles. The temperature cycle of the growth rate to fruiting mirrors that of a high nitro compost pile. Culture wise they are a real pain to keep viable. I have been working off and on with them for a while. While I use banana trash (leaves and trunk chunks), I think a hay would work, the idea would be to make a pile like that of a compost pile, of old hay, not just straw the seeds etc of hay would help the nute levels. The other thing is the use of secondary spawn. Made up of bran and chopped fine straw. The steps are like this Culture {spore-tissue}-> Grain -> secondary spawn -> knocking of bulk substrate.. Once you got one pile going and fruiting, take a chunk and knock another pile, etc etc. Once you get one active and fruiting they just keep going, they are very much a weed mushroom like coprinus, and share a lot of similar traits. If you're going to use them within a few hours after picking, then let fruit fully, if not then you must pick them at the egg stage, before they break out, even then their only good for 4-6 hours before deliquescing {sorry my spelling is bad, they rot fast). Refrigeration only make them into slime. But for all the headaches their worth growing tasty, and sweet.
One of the best places for information is the "Department of Plant Pathology" University of the Philippines Los Banos,,,
They have cultures for sale too. I have the email somewhere, I'll dig it up and get it posted. Any questions toss me a PM
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: mule]
#10366850 - 05/19/09 09:32 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks, that was helpful, cool that you can use one pile to inoculate another.
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mule said: When you think paddy straw think compost piles. The temperature cycle of the growth rate to fruiting mirrors that of a high nitro compost pile. Culture wise they are a real pain to keep viable. I have been working off and on with them for a while. While I use banana trash (leaves and trunk chunks), I think a hay would work, the idea would be to make a pile like that of a compost pile, of old hay, not just straw the seeds etc of hay would help the nute levels. The other thing is the use of secondary spawn. Made up of bran and chopped fine straw. The steps are like this Culture {spore-tissue}-> Grain -> secondary spawn -> knocking of bulk substrate.. Once you got one pile going and fruiting, take a chunk and knock another pile, etc etc. Once you get one active and fruiting they just keep going, they are very much a weed mushroom like coprinus, and share a lot of similar traits. If you're going to use them within a few hours after picking, then let fruit fully, if not then you must pick them at the egg stage, before they break out, even then their only good for 4-6 hours before deliquescing {sorry my spelling is bad, they rot fast). Refrigeration only make them into slime. But for all the headaches their worth growing tasty, and sweet.
One of the best places for information is the "Department of Plant Pathology" University of the Philippines Los Banos,,,
Mule may put that in the Cultivation Parameters? http://www.shroomery.org/8533/Cultivation-Parameters.
Edited by falcon (05/19/09 09:44 PM)
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: mule]
#10368610 - 05/20/09 08:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try to contact Mrs. Tricita Hidalgo Quimio by e-mail: thq@laguna.net
See also the following web site :
http://www.biodiversitycollectionsindex.org/collection/view/id/14632
Cheers,
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: wbastz]
#10368823 - 05/20/09 09:36 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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sure you may put that in the Cultivation Parameters. Here is some pictures if want them too.
  



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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: mule]
#10372707 - 05/20/09 10:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks Mule. I added the text to the cultivation parameters and some of the pictures, but I am having trouble adding the other pictures, the picture tab in the edit document isn't working.
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Re: Any have that Paddy straw mushroom growth parameters [Re: didjin_d]
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