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Harlz
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Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized
#10363573 - 05/19/09 09:44 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I birthed a cake and dunked it, Theres a big hole in it where the mycellium hadnt colonized but I birthed it cuz there were huge pre-pins on it ,
anyways after the dunk I was rinsing it with cold water and dug the hole out with my finger pretty good, will it get contaminated? Should I cut off the un colonized parts? I dont know if its a threat but I dont want it to kill my other hard work in the same chamber.. Thanks
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Shroominit
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: Harlz]
#10363585 - 05/19/09 09:47 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you scraped the uncolonized portion, you should be fine.
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m08b08
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasn't fully colonized [Re: Harlz]
#10363586 - 05/19/09 09:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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i had this same problem with some b+ that i inoculated in February in a full pint jar that made it to about 75% colonization so rinsed all uncolonized part off,dunked it for 12 hour's crumbled it up and layed some fresh coir on top.i got a couple small lushes but nothing to get excited about.yea id separate it from the others ya know !
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized *DELETED* [Re: Harlz]
#10363589 - 05/19/09 09:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: Wunbadmofo]
#10363597 - 05/19/09 09:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yea youll be ok !
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: m08b08]
#10363611 - 05/19/09 09:55 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha ok dude thanks alot for all the good quick advice, my cakce will colonize over the dry verm i dropped on it now anyways after its been misted a few times right?
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: Harlz]
#10363616 - 05/19/09 09:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you remove the substrate that hasnt colonized then there shouldnt be much that contams could get a hold..so you shouldnt have any problems. -prismism
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#10363634 - 05/19/09 10:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroominit
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: prismism]
#10363635 - 05/19/09 10:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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prismism said: myc doesnt colonize verm..because it is non nutritive substance.
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veda_sticks
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: Wunbadmofo]
#10363687 - 05/19/09 10:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wunbadmofo said: Dude I do that ALL the time. Whenever I have significant pins in a jar, and its more than 75% colonized, I birth, rinse and rub off uncolonized sub. Then a 24 hour dunk, followed by a rinse and rub uncolonized area again. Then a roll in dry verm.
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Then your doing something wrong. Sure you still get fruits, but your get much better results following the tek that has been proven over many years. Use 1/2 pint jars that are as tall as they are wide, incubate at room temp and only allow gas exchange. They will fully colinise fine.
Removing uncolinised substrate is a waiste.
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Shroominit
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: veda_sticks]
#10363726 - 05/19/09 10:27 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: Removing uncolinised substrate is a waiste.
Be that as it may, if you're spawning to a tub, sometimes that is the best option. You don't want half your jars invitro pinning because you had to wait for one slow jar to finish colonizing.
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: Shroominit]
#10363785 - 05/19/09 10:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pins arnt a problem, you can spawn to bulk with pins, they will just revert back to mycelial growth when you break up and mix your spawn and introduce to substrate.
Unless i have picked up some misinformation, so correct me if im wrong.
Not sure though if they develop further than the pin stage though.
However, we wernt talking about spanning to bulk, just fruiting cakes as is.
Mycelium will infact sometimes colinise the verm that you roll your cake in. When you do a rez effect (grains mixed with verm) it can colinise and become a solid block.
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Shroominit
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: veda_sticks]
#10363832 - 05/19/09 11:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pins will start growing mycelium again, but it uses a lot of energy to form a pin then revert back to growing. -- In my opinion it is more wasteful than tossing out maybe a fifth of a jar of uncolonized substrate.
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#10363918 - 05/19/09 11:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Fruiting a cake that wasnt fully colonized [Re: Wunbadmofo]
#10363995 - 05/19/09 12:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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naw I would never flip a jar , and I dont think theres a contam seeing as ive eaten mushrooms from cakes that pinned early in this grow, the mycellium in those jars was just extremely slow and took some jars like 6 weeks to fully colonize so obviously there was invitro pinning,
I followed everything correctly
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