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Invisiblebob5

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good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad..
    #10349414 - 05/16/09 05:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i read somewhere, - someone doing this:   


and:


^ putting wet vermiculite in the upturned lid.. to keep it hydrated.
i did this because they were bone dry and light ..after about 12 days post birthing.

where on cakes do pins form mostly..  and will they go through the wet vermiculite or maybe start higher up..
and will the wet vermiculite add contam problem with fresh air or fuck up hypnal knots e.t.c.....?

basically.. was that a good idea? and if not how can i stop them drying out.. (i am misting about 5 - 6 times a day and then fanning.

sorry for all the questions .. but i am not all too sure if alot of what i'm doing is right..  (first try.)
cheers
bob

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: bob5]
    #10349447 - 05/16/09 05:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

did you dunk for 24 hours after birthing?


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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: oh_you_know]
    #10349795 - 05/16/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

sure did..  and rolled . .  + scooped some wet vermiculate ontop of the cakes..
just dunno...

was it wise to do ^ that (lid verm)..    will it help, or hinder?

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: bob5]
    #10349836 - 05/16/09 06:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

keeping the cake hydrated is one thing, keeping your humidity up in your chamber is another.  Make sure you're at 90%+ humidity and then just make sure you redunk after each flush, that's my best advice.  As long as you maintain the high humidity in the chamber then you know all your moisture is going into your cake/mushrooms so that's the best you can ask for.  Hydrating for 24hrs is the best way to get yourself started.  If you're losing a lot of moisture through the air then that might be your issue.

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: bob5]
    #10349838 - 05/16/09 06:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

bob5, look up DEC (double end casing) in the search function.  That's what you've done.

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will it help, or hinder?



It won't make a ton of difference.  I've always found that the top verm layer is far more effective for hydration, probably due to gravity.

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: Dudester67]
    #10349883 - 05/16/09 06:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Sunfrost said:
keeping the cake hydrated is one thing, keeping your humidity up in your chamber is another.  Make sure you're at 90%+ humidity and then just make sure you redunk after each flush, that's my best advice.  As long as you maintain the high humidity in the chamber then you know all your moisture is going into your cake/mushrooms so that's the best you can ask for.  Hydrating for 24hrs is the best way to get yourself started.  If you're losing a lot of moisture through the air then that might be your issue.

GL



i haven't got an accurate hygrometer but i'm using a shotgun fc with 4.5 inches of perlite...    reckon i might have been fanning too rigorously.

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bob5, look up DEC (double end casing) in the search function.  That's what you've done.

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bob5 said:
will it help, or hinder?



It won't make a ton of difference.  I've always found that the top verm layer is far more effective for hydration, probably due to gravity.



i just did.. - couldn't find the tek..  so is it scoop ontop and moat around the cake?
(in the lid?)

if so i reckon it has helped somewhat..  because compared to the non 'double cased
they are pretty moist..  -  now.

thanks guys

Edited by bob5 (05/17/09 09:16 AM)

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: bob5]
    #10349916 - 05/16/09 07:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

this describes DEC pretty well, and it has a link to the original fanaticus DEC tek

http://www.thenook.org/archives/2899.html

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Invisiblebob5

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: Dudester67]
    #10352393 - 05/17/09 09:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

ah.. - cool..
thanks for link.


will it be a problem that i double cased about 10 days after fruiting?
i just remembered  i heard that they pin from the top and bottom (edges) of cakes
and i have now covered up the bottom and top...

b

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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: bob5]
    #10352621 - 05/17/09 10:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

it probably wont do much. if anything they may just grow out of the verm


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Re: good adaptation to cake hydration... or bad.. [Re: oh_you_know]
    #10352749 - 05/17/09 10:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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