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Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas?
    #1034980 - 11/08/02 04:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I want to make up some 50/50 this afternoon but I dont have a pressure cooker to sterilize. Do any of you know any ways round this?

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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035030 - 11/08/02 05:15 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Combine the dry ingredients in the oven (maybe add some water to prevent burning). Bake (probably @ 250F...not sure how long would be sufficient), then add boiling bottled water to bring the moisture content back up.



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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035050 - 11/08/02 05:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

glad oven bags.....put the casing mixture with a little more water than needed in the oven....not sure on the time or temp tho..


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: Magician26]
    #1035094 - 11/08/02 06:26 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I sterilize my jars by sitting them in a steaming basket over a pan of boiling water for an hour. Do you think this would work if I put the 50/50 mix in a pillowcase and put it in the basket with a lid over it???


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035097 - 11/08/02 06:29 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yes it will work.
As long as you can maintain a certain temperature for a atleast 30 minutes it will be fine.
So just sterilise as you would your jars.


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1035099 - 11/08/02 06:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.

You may be able to answer anoth of my questions. Is pete moss that same as compost??


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035103 - 11/08/02 06:38 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

No peat isnt the same as compost. Peat is for moisture retention and compost is food for plants/ shrooms


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: WebMycelium]
    #1035112 - 11/08/02 06:53 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Can you help me with this and tell me if its a good idear or not. I have 2 PR cakes fully colonised and in the terrarium but will not pin as much as I've tried. I've been told it maybe because it's to cold (60F) but I'm having a hard time raising the temp as I live in the cold UK.

I was thinking about slicing up the cakes and placing them on some verm in a small rubber made and covering with the 50/50 then placing them in a large rubbermaid along with a 5 litre water bottle filled with hot water and changed twice a day for the heat. I've read in another tek that because your casing is in a large rubbermaid this its self acts as a terrarium so I should be able to do the whole process in there. I'd be grateful for your thoughts because this is my first time and I'm getting a little frustrated with seeing no pins after 10 days.

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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035159 - 11/08/02 07:28 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You definately arent ready for casings so dont cut up the cakes. Go get a regular phish tank heater and a gallon jug cut a hole in the lid of the gallon jug and slide the phish tank heater in the hole and put the jug in the fruiting chamber and adjust the heater till you get into the 74F-78F range. Also what are you using for humidity?


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: WebMycelium]
    #1035175 - 11/08/02 07:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.

I have the PF style aquarium and I'm hand spraying and fanning twice a day.

The cakes have devoloped some cottony mycelium in some parts and spikey stuff in others but I dont think they are pins.

I also have a PR casing on straight verm in there as well with mycelium poking at the surface and spikey bits coming off that also.



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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035186 - 11/08/02 07:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Cakes and casings require different humidity levels while in the fruiting chamber. 95-100% humidity for cakes and 82-85% for casings is what I have had best results with.


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: dansta]
    #1035404 - 11/08/02 09:49 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

my friend makes the 50/50+ but adds a little too much water. then covers in foil (not too tightly) and bakes at 375 for 45 minutes to an hour. then lets it sit in the closed oven to cool over night. works fine.


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Re: Sterilization of 50/50 mix - any ideas? [Re: Bilge]
    #1035577 - 11/08/02 11:16 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'm doing the same, and it is working well for me. Previously used the microwave, but had more trouble with casing contamination.
Once I even fell asleep and my casing cooked for about 7 hours. I needed it right away, had to go to work, and couldn't prepare more in time. I wet it down with distilled water, applied it to my straw/scotts colonized bulk casing, and the second flush is looking beautiful.
Before wetting my casing down, it smelled (okay, the whole damn house smelled) like burnt funk. When I air that box, I still smell burnt funk. But the mushies seem to like burnt funk just fine - at least the Florida strain in that box does!


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