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Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics**
    #10343905 - 05/15/09 02:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hi, this is the second flush and I noticed the center of a few of the caps are splitting or something... My first assumption is humidity problems, but iono. I am switching to polyfil instead of the vents I have now, so I think the humidity problem will be addressed.
(You can see the splitting best in the last pic, and I had just misted prior to the pics so don't mind the moist look around the caps)

Also, after the first flush I dunked for 8 hours and I need advice on how to get a more even pinset on the second flush?

Any help is much appreciated!



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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: DZ]
    #10343938 - 05/15/09 02:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Woah, those are interesting looking caps. 

I've heard trusted cultivators say caps cracking or splitting is often a sign of bad humidity, but I've never seen it like that before.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: Jadian]
    #10343971 - 05/15/09 02:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

hmm, well i think those dark slightly depressed parts on the cap happen when excess moisture is left on the cap, i could be wrong on that tho, its the only thing ive been able to think off when ive had them.

like jadian says caps splitting is an indicator that you need to bump the humidity up.

in your case it looks like the cap split from being a little dry then continued to grow, forming that little crown. that or straight up genetics.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: Jadian]
    #10343987 - 05/15/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That's what I thought I remembered. I failed to mention strain - Orissa India, if anyone is interested.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: DZ]
    #10344044 - 05/15/09 02:46 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

using a light?


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: capt cap]
    #10344106 - 05/15/09 02:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

thats what happened to some of mine
hollow stems and holes in the caps.

idk why :/


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: kingjames488]
    #10344331 - 05/15/09 03:47 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Heres a link. Study the difference between cracked and split caps.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php

The search feature is a wonderful thing. You'll note in your reading, this topic (cracked caps) has been covered extensively by most of the trusted cultivators.

Good luck.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: rustypan]
    #10344450 - 05/15/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

thanks jackass(rustypan), i believe the cracked caps are due to my vent style ventilation, thus lower humidity, hooray polyfil!


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: DZ]
    #10344463 - 05/15/09 04:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

lol


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: DZ]
    #10344617 - 05/15/09 04:41 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Wow those don't look anything like the Orissa's I grew out, but one thing I did notice was all the caps of my Orissa's had quite the prominent little nipple in the middle of them.  Many mushrooms do but these were very pronounced and on almost every mushroom, this might have *something* to do with why a lot of yours seem to be doing that in the middle of the cap.  Of course this is all speculative though.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: DZ]
    #10344625 - 05/15/09 04:42 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

DZ said:
thanks jackass(rustypan)




:congrats:  :goodmorning:


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: Jadian]
    #10344640 - 05/15/09 04:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Those look crazy. Looks like a case of mad cow disease! Didn't use cow manure as the substrate, did ya? haha.

Wish you all the luck in finding out whats really wrong!


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: Shawty]
    #10345029 - 05/15/09 06:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Looks more like a mutation than cracking.

Caps splitting (looking like petals on a flour) are usually associated with fast growth, where as scaling of caps is associated with low humidity.

i found this

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1. you can mist your casing with fruits and pins on it. just mist gentle (never point mister at it, let the mist drift down) and mist frequently. far more effective to give frequent light waterings than infrequent heavy waterings. fan afterwards to start the evaporation process. getting mist on fruits and pins is no problem, but you don't want to soak them.

2. caps splitting and scaling can be due to humidity. more or less the scaling points to humidity problems (where caps actually seem to split on top, sometimes you'll see mushrooms that looks like somebody carved an "X" into the cap... that's scaling, and a humidity problem.) caps that split like in your picture can simply be a genetic trait, combined with the fact that maybe they grew a little too quick for their own good. nothing to worry about really.





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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10345071 - 05/15/09 06:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

veda have you noticed your posts 6666 ahahahahh


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: JMR]
    #10345480 - 05/15/09 07:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Lol not anymore,


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10345509 - 05/15/09 07:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i have a few cakes where the mushrooms did that too


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: tripdawg420]
    #10345821 - 05/15/09 08:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Dude seriously that looks like some sort of bacterial contam on the caps. I would just make sure they dont get any bigger, just make sure its not like breaking them down/decay. I had that kind of stuff happen to me back in the day. I think your humidity might be high.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: LD50]
    #10345841 - 05/15/09 08:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

I think your humidity might be high.




You cant have too much humidity.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10345890 - 05/15/09 08:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

oh you cant huh? OK thats how bacterial contams happen and yes you can have too much humidity. All im telling him is not to go gonzo with misting. if you can take a small chunk of your casing layer pinch it between your fingers and have a couple of drops of water come off then your right on the money. Go read stamets books and you will know otherwise.


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Re: Lil help, Monotub - caps splitting in center **HD Pics** [Re: LD50]
    #10345964 - 05/15/09 08:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Theres a difference between humidity and misting. You cannot have too much humidity.

What will cause bacterial contamination on fruitbodys is leaving them soaked. And that is why you should fan after misting. Getting your mushrooms or pins wet wont harm anything. Leaving them wet will. Fanning after misting will evaporate any pools of water that may have formed on fruitbodys.


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Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
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Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek


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