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    #10329241 - 05/12/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

For those who play.... where at

i use ultimate bet.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10329268 - 05/12/09 08:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

PokerStars dot k0m =D

It's been a long time but online poker is oddly addictive. Too bad I always end up losing all my cash because I suck playing conservatively online.

They must rig their "cards".


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Re: Online Poker [Re: 0kehSt0nr]
    #10329278 - 05/12/09 08:33 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yeah..  i haven't been doing so good lately either.. the loses are worth the wins, but it something to do.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10329356 - 05/12/09 08:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm on UB aswell.  You playin right now?

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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10329357 - 05/12/09 08:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

hah.  after posting this i found an article on Ultimate Bet which is where I gamble...

How lame is this.

reference:  http://pokeronamac.com/news/preliminary-report-issued-on-ultimate-bet-cheating-scandal/

Preliminary Report Issued on Ultimate Bet Cheating Scandal

The investigation into the Ultimate Bet cheating scandal has named Russ Hamilton, winner of the 1994 World Series of Poker Main Event, as one of the people behind the scam that involved superuser accounts with the ability to see other players’ hole cards.

This is a similar cheating scandal to the one seen at Absolute Poker when a superuser named Potripper was detected winning a big tournament through suspicious means. You can read more about this incident at

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The cheating came to light when several players expressed concern over the questionable actions of some accounts. The players started charting the suspicious accounts in an attempt to uncover a track record of questionable decisions that benefited the suspicious accounts. In light of these activities the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, which licenses many of the online poker sites, launched a full-scale investigation. The KGC hired a gaming consulting firm run by Frank Catania Sr., a former New Jersey Assistant Attorney General.

According to the IGamingNews report, which takes its information from the KGC’s preliminary report, Russ Hamilton was behind the superuser scandal as he gained access through his work with the Ultimate Bet affiliate program team. The scam is estimated to have been running for three and a half years, costing Ultimate Bet players $6.1 million.

No other names have been revealed yet, but the KGC is already taking action based on the preliminary report. The full report on the incident is expected to be ready by November, and the Kahnawake Gaming Commission has said that they will be working with law enforcement agencies in order to bring the cheaters to justice.

The KGC has imposed a fine of $1.5 million on Ultimate Bet and has put forth a number of actions that Ultimate Bet must take before this cheating episode is concluded.

The Kahnawake Gaming Commission issued the following press release pertaining to the cheating scandal and the actions Ultimate Bet must take.

(MOHAWK TERRITORY OF KAHNAWAKE – September 29, 2008) Kahnawa:ke Gaming Commission (”KGC”) Chairman Dean Montour today announced the initial findings of the audit conducted on licensee Ultimate Bet, as well as the sanctions to be imposed.

According to KGC Chairman Montour, the Commission has reviewed the information provided to it over the past months from Frank Catania of Catania Gaming Consultants of New Jersey; Gaming Associates, an Australian game testing company; and the permit holder. Chairman Montour said, “The Commissioners have made several findings of fact with regard to the cheating that occurred on the Ultimate Bet web site that included the identification of some of the individuals responsible for these incidents as well other significant violations of the Kahnawa:ke Interactive Gaming Regulations.”

The Commission found clear and convincing evidence to support the conclusion that between the approximate dates of May 2004 to January 2008, Russell Hamilton, an individual associated with Ultimate Bet’s affiliate program, was the main person responsible for and benefiting from the multiple cheating incidents. Furthermore, the KGC is currently in contact with the appropriate law enforcement agencies and intends to fully cooperate in the prosecution of all individuals involved in the UB cheating incidents.

Mr. Catania states, “My intention is to provide further information as it is uncovered, although the information already submitted to the KGC relating to Ultimate Bet warrants the KGC taking the actions it has today. Any further evidence uncovered with regard to cheating, withholding or destroying records in our continuing investigation will be reported to the KGC and the proper agency for appropriate action.”

As a result of the KGC’s findings of fact, the Commission called a special meeting, at which time it was unanimously decided to impose the following sanctions against Ultimate Bet:
1. Ultimate Bet is directed that by November 3, 2008 it shall, under the close supervision of the KGC, its employees and agents, commence refunding all players accounts found to have been adversely affected by the cheating of individuals under the control and supervision of the licensee. It is estimated that Ultimate Bet has to date reimbursed $6.1 million USD to players’ accounts found to have been adversely impacted by the cheating activity
2. Ultimate Bet is directed that by November 3, 2008 it is to remove any and all persons deemed as “unsuitable” by the KGC from all involvement with the company, which shall include all levels of ownership, management and operation. Ultimate Bet during that time period until November 3, 2008 is required to continue to provide complete details of all day-to-day operations of the company. These shall include financial as well as daily gaming records to Frank Catania and or his assigns. It is anticipated that this action will provide full disclosure and prevent any further improprieties or wrongdoing from occurring while ensuring that the public is being offered fair and honest games and all player monies will be protected.
3. Ultimate Bet’s control system as defined in section 9 of the Kahnawa:ke Interactive Gaming Regulations has been modified to prevent any further incidents of cheating or related improprieties.
4. Ultimate Bet will not delete or modify any logs including but not limited to web logs and game logs as required by the Kahnawa:ke Interactive Gaming Regulations and will continue to have those logs immediately available for inspection by the KGC or its agents.
5. Ultimate Bet shall immediately pay a fine of $1.5 Million USD to the KGC for its failure to implement and enforce measures to prohibit and detect fraudulent activities.
6. Ultimate Bet’s failure to comply fully with these measures will result in the immediate revocation of its KGC gaming permit.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10329433 - 05/12/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Poker Stars.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: memes]
    #10329447 - 05/12/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm on UB aswell.  You playin right now?





yeah.  i am on their right now.  under nateSE


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10332795 - 05/13/09 02:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Get your money off of Ultimate Bet now.

They are a lying, cheating, scummy company.

I know that there could be cheaters on any site, but UB tried to cover it up and handled the situation ridiculously irresponsibly.

It's pretty scary when WSOP champions are scamming people for MILLIONS of dollars, and no arrests are even made; just fines.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #10333310 - 05/13/09 04:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Russ Hamilton is a fat scumbag.

Greedy, slimy, shitface.

What a champ, huh?

I'll bet he doesn't show his lumpy face at the WSOP 2009....

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Re: Online Poker [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #10333380 - 05/13/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i bet he don't either.  i like this place though.  plus they have to hand in daily logs of everything they do to the gaming commission.  i don't think that they would dare do it twice.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10333430 - 05/13/09 05:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Currently playing on Full Tilt (FTP) and have been loving it since moving from Poker Stars (PS). The software is brilliant and there is always a great deal of games to be played.

Anyone seen this hand before? It was a brilliant play by Phil Ivey.



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Re: Online Poker [Re: gENERIX]
    #10333468 - 05/13/09 05:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

that would be insane playing with that much money.  maybe one of these days huh.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: gENERIX]
    #10333506 - 05/13/09 05:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Anyone seen this hand before? It was a brilliant play by Phil Ivey.




That was awesome!

This is one of my favourite hands.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: Chubba]
    #10333527 - 05/13/09 05:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yo man, I've played poker for my bread and butter for three years now. Ultimate Bet & Absolute Poker are shit. For the reasons states above. They have been caught cheating, and allowing people to cheat on their software. Is you want the best games go to Pokerstars, if you want the best games/bonuses go to full tilt. If you don't have an account their yet they will give you 27% rakeback. LOOK INTO THIS BEFORE YOU MAKE AN ACCOUNT IT"S HUGE!!! Also check out sites like 2+2 publishing. That is where I really learned how to play the game.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: headofmike]
    #10333578 - 05/13/09 05:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i would be pissed if i lost with 4 A's


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Re: Online Poker [Re: Chubba]
    #10333773 - 05/13/09 05:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Anyone seen this hand before? It was a brilliant play by Phil Ivey.




That was awesome!

This is one of my favourite hands.






I remember watching the WSOP last year and was gob smacked when they flipped over their cards. There is no getting away from quad aces no matter how good a player you are!


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Re: Online Poker [Re: gENERIX]
    #10336257 - 05/14/09 03:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I think Justin Phillips beat 4 aces with a Royal Flush last year at the main event.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #10336408 - 05/14/09 05:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I play on Full Tilt to try for the free Main Event seat, or the face the ace TV show. I know Freeplay sucks, but it isn't that bad when there is an awesome prize worth millions at stake.

I am a broke ho.

The best I have done this year is placed 10th in a Face the ace 360 person tourney, and two years ago I won a round one 630 person tourney. In round two (all round one winners) I got 1700th out of 3200.

Figures.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #10336727 - 05/14/09 08:14 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hahahaha "I love raymer!  everybody watch tha tshowwwwwww!!!"

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Re: Online Poker [Re: memes]
    #10337410 - 05/14/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Hahahaha "I love raymer!  everybody watch tha tshowwwwwww!!!"




I have these googly-eyed hologram glasses I have always been tempted to wear at the table.....

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Re: Online Poker [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #10337786 - 05/14/09 01:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i play ub about 4 hours a day...so addicting.

I actually bring my laptop to class and play sit and gos instead of taking notes lol

we should play some poker!


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Re: Online Poker [Re: mufasahahaha]
    #10348570 - 05/16/09 01:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

so.  i won 1 step and 2 tickets on ultimate bet.  what does that mean?


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10348924 - 05/16/09 02:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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so.  i won 1 step and 2 tickets on ultimate bet.  what does that mean?




I'm stupid, I don't even know what you mean.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10349087 - 05/16/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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so.  i won 1 step and 2 tickets on ultimate bet.  what does that mean?




thats the wsop step thing.  if you place in step 1 you get a buy in for step 2,  if you win step 3 you go to step 4 and so on...it goes up to 10 steps and if you win step 10 you get a buy in for the wsop which is like 12 k...if you get second you get 3500 bucks.


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Re: Online Poker [Re: mufasahahaha]
    #10350833 - 05/16/09 11:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh, I am used to Full Tilt. Fuck UB.

Round 1 has 450 people, and 1st place goes on to Round 2.

Round 2, 1st and Second go to Round Three.

Round 3, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd go to the WSOP Main Event.

And the Buy-In is 10K, but you do usually get spending money and two weeks room and board.

Ultimate bet is cheating scum, and 12 steps to get in? What a shitty site.

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Re: Online Poker [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #10361217 - 05/18/09 09:02 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

anyone on?


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10362010 - 05/18/09 11:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i'm on...


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Re: Online Poker [Re: mufasahahaha]
    #10362347 - 05/19/09 01:21 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i play on Pokerstars, account name is Ethanol420


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Re: Online Poker [Re: headofmike]
    #10392824 - 05/24/09 07:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Yo man, I've played poker for my bread and butter for three years now. Ultimate Bet & Absolute Poker are shit. For the reasons states above. They have been caught cheating, and allowing people to cheat on their software. Is you want the best games go to Pokerstars, if you want the best games/bonuses go to full tilt. If you don't have an account their yet they will give you 27% rakeback. LOOK INTO THIS BEFORE YOU MAKE AN ACCOUNT IT"S HUGE!!! Also check out sites like 2+2 publishing. That is where I really learned how to play the game.





how do you get the rake back..  when i make my first deposit their?


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Re: Online Poker [Re: drSE]
    #10537011 - 06/19/09 01:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I played on Fulltilt.NET for years, and now switched to Pokerstars.

WAY better players, not nearly as much of the All-in every hand BS. People on there are actually capable of good lay-downs.

The WSOP freerolls are huge, but way better than Fulltilt.

Round 1= 10,000 Player max 4x shootout, top ten go to round 2.

Round 2= about 1000 players, 1st goes to WSOP.

My first two I played I placed 143rd, and 95th out of 10,000. Lately though I have been about 4000th.

The shootouts are awesome though because each table plays down to one seat before anyone moves tables.

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