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uneven pinset....harvesting help?
    #10327851 - 05/12/09 03:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

im super confused....i got a pretty uneven pinset and have a bunch of pins just starting to pin while their are also a bunch of pins maturing. i am pretty confused on what to do! when you harvest i read that your suppose to remove everything, but does that even include the pins that are just starting to grow or pretty much, in summary, remove anything that has an orange or brown cap even tho it doesnt matter on the size? i also want to try and get a better & bigger pinset on the next flush so any advice would do wonders. ive read everything and even though i just became a member i've been using this site for references on my first grow which started 6 months ago. im on my second right now and i hope to get a better understanding of this all.

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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: eatmadmushrooms]
    #10327862 - 05/12/09 03:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Give us some information about your grow. Also check out the pinning strategy in my sig. It's very helpful.


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: eatmadmushrooms]
    #10327877 - 05/12/09 03:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

In bulk grows it's normal practice to remove the first few pins to get an even pinset. I think that really only applies to multispore/LC inoc, because when you isolate the genetics you should get the pins coming up at pretty much the same time.

Right now on my grow I have the same thing going on. I had 3 pins come in first, and they are much more mature than any of the other pins coming in right now. If you want to pick all of your shrooms at the ideal time (which is right before the veil breaks), then it's a good idea to keep an eye on the shrooms growing and to pick them as they mature.

Like I said, if you want a more even pinset I suggest isolating a strain and grow with those spores. You'll definitely get a nice looking flush.


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: psychedelia56]
    #10327909 - 05/12/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

What? You can get great results with MS. That is a ridiculous statement.

The pinning strategy in my sig was done with MS.


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: Jitsu]
    #10327914 - 05/12/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Where did I say you couldn't get great results with MS? I just said the genetics will vary, so of course the time for the pins to come up will too. :smile:


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: psychedelia56]
    #10327935 - 05/12/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I find it very hard to believe that genetics play a bigger role in pinning than your actual fruiting conditions. I have fruited countless strains of multispore over the years and not one I have noticed has been shitty due to genetics.


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: eatmadmushrooms]
    #10327953 - 05/12/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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eatmadmushrooms said:
im super confused...




Just pick them as their veil begins to tear on a case by case basis.  Enjoy!


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: Jitsu]
    #10327955 - 05/12/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That depends on your definition of "shitty". I'm going by what this user is saying, the fact that some pins are showing up earlier than others.

Now, I don't really know how much variety is in a MS syringe but my guess is quite a bit. Enough to have 3 or 4 different kinds of mushrooms growing on a cake. In my opinion that's good enough to cause different timings for pinning. Also, from my understanding genetics plays a role in how fast it pins, because you can clone a fast pinning fruit and possibly get more fruits that pin fast. Am I wrong here?

Fruiting conditions may play a role as well. However if it's pinning normally than shouldn't the conditions be good? Like I said in my first reply I have the same thing going on - maybe I have the same problem then. Could you elaborate on this a bit?

And of course I never said I couldn't be wrong, please correct me if I am because I don't want to spill out bad information.


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: george castanza]
    #10327963 - 05/12/09 03:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Oh ya, don't forget, to gently pull and twist to harvest your shrooms.


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: psychedelia56]
    #10328025 - 05/12/09 03:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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That depends on your definition of "shitty". I'm going by what this user is saying, the fact that some pins are showing up earlier than others.

Now, I don't really know how much variety is in a MS syringe but my guess is quite a bit. Enough to have 3 or 4 different kinds of mushrooms growing on a cake. In my opinion that's good enough to cause different timings for pinning. Also, from my understanding genetics plays a role in how fast it pins, because you can clone a fast pinning fruit and possibly get more fruits that pin fast. Am I wrong here?

Fruiting conditions may play a role as well. However if it's pinning normally than shouldn't the conditions be good? Like I said in my first reply I have the same thing going on - maybe I have the same problem then. Could you elaborate on this a bit?

And of course I never said I couldn't be wrong, please correct me if I am because I don't want to spill out bad information.





Interesting question. It's very difficult to believe genetics play a larger role than fruiting conditions in pinning but if I am understanding you right...

Are you asking that if a specific mycelium network has multiple genetic makeups because you inoculated with multispore?


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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: Jitsu]
    #10328047 - 05/12/09 03:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That's basically what I think. In a cake, there are multiple "strains" of networks, because it's typical for one strain to dominate a portion of the cake (I could be wrong of course). So, with that logic you would think that from each different strain you would get different looking fruits with different genetics, ranging from pin timing, to size and potency.

The only reason I leaned towards genetics is because this grow is more than likely a first one (edit: I was wrong it's the second one, but still :P), and it's probably using the PF tek. I feel like it's pretty hard to mess up the fruiting conditions of the PF tek when using a good FC with a decent set-up. Like many others have said the PF tek is fairly forgiving. Of course I'm making a few assumptions here, but I'm just going off of what I was given.

Let me know if I'm off to left field. :smile:


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Edited by psychedelia56 (05/12/09 03:57 PM)

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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: Jitsu]
    #10328053 - 05/12/09 03:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

okay i got two rye to coir bulk grows going both were inoculated with a multispore syringe. i got a shotgun fc and the humidity ranges from 92-99% with a temp from 67-77.  i misted a fair amount till i saw pins then stopped due to confusion of the watering process during pinning. i know its not genetics tho b/c i did poorly on making the casing layer even throughout the pans.  but ive learned from my mistakes all ready.  so im thinking of just harvesting everything when the majority has matured, even the baby pins and just start the 2nd flush, does that sound like a good idea? or should i leave the baby's and harvest the matured ones, letting the babys to catch up? but if i did the second one wouldnt it just waste the sub and screw up my future flushes?  jitsu-i read your pinning strategy and ill def try it on the next flush...thanks for the help

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Re: uneven pinset....harvesting help? [Re: eatmadmushrooms]
    #10328060 - 05/12/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

There we have it - that's where I was wrong. It wasn't using BRF jars.

Thanks for clearing that up eatmadmushrooms, and thanks for your advice Jitsu. Sorry if I said anything that could possibly mess up someones grow.


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