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 GoshAllMighty
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 Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? 
#10295706 - 05/06/09 08:03 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a container that is filled with horse poo and already has small Panaeolus sprouting up everywhere. I also had a jar of EQ w/ straight brown rice that had completely staled out so I threw it in with the panaeolus in the horse poo. I don't know anything about growing multi mushrooms together, what are the odds that the EQ will produce anything along side the pans?
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 Shroominit
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 Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: GoshAllMighty]
#10295716 - 05/06/09 08:09 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't know how much you added or anything like that, but if the pans were already fully colonized and pinning, it's likely that you won't see any EQ.
If you added it before colonization, and at a decent quantity like 1/3 of the pans or more you'd probably see a few pop up.
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GoshAllMighty
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
#10298786 - 05/06/09 07:07 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea they were already pinning 
does one form of mycelium just concur the other in that case or what?
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: GoshAllMighty]
#10298928 - 05/06/09 07:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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most often the stronger one will take over.
I think it works sometimes though.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: GoshAllMighty]
#10298940 - 05/06/09 07:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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from what i've read they compete and one will overtake another. whichever wins out will be comprimised by wasting energy defending it self. there is an outrageously slim to none chance that mother nature will allow a hybrid to be created but, you'd have a better chance winning the lottery by finding a ticket not buying it.
however what you can do is a 1/2 and 1/2 substrate. you would mix the spawn and sub material seperately and put them in the same tray side by side and have 2 species fruit on the same sub only one on each side. 
i tried it recently with some leftover spawn and sub i had but, it got a little trich and i tossed it.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: artizen]
#10299224 - 05/06/09 08:19 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just got done with my monotub doing exactly what your describing. The my tub finished it's first flush strong, if definitely took forever to fully colonize and when it was all said and done, the Golden Teachers beat out the Z-Strain. I'd say that some energy may have been used by the strains competing, but not all. More just time. Dry weight of the flush was about 23g dry. If you haven't combined them, I wouldn't, if you have, be patient! Expect the tub to take about 3-4 (maybe longer)weeks instead of 1-2 weeks.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: AlienTechKilla]
#10299276 - 05/06/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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strains dont compete with each other, the dont fight.
Im not sure about 2 different species, but im sure they would just live side by side, idk though
with 2 strains of the same species, they will either join if compatible, or grow and fruit seperatly not having the full benifit of the substrate.
Just because you only seen 1 type of mushroom, doesnt mean only 1 strain of mycelium grew.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: veda_sticks]
#10302275 - 05/07/09 12:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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alright thanks everyone for the wonderful information. I tried to remove all the little pins that were sprouting from the horse poo, then I removed any solid pieces that seemed to have mycelium fuss on them, broke down all of the horse poo and mixed in about 2cups gypsum and 2cups water and the substrate. Ill post pics if it produces any gold.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: GoshAllMighty]
#10302324 - 05/07/09 12:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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you dont need to remove pins when spawning to bulk.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: veda_sticks]
#10302570 - 05/07/09 01:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
veda_sticks said:
you dont need to remove pins when spawning to bulk.
but they were pins of a different strain, does it still not matter?
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: GoshAllMighty]
#10302785 - 05/07/09 02:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to your post... I was too busy getting hungry as shit looking at that cheeseburger and fries.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: mozartvicious]
#10302861 - 05/07/09 02:24 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Iv noticed if I stare too long it almost becomes soggy like real food does.
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Re: Growing multiple mushrooms in same chamber? [Re: GoshAllMighty]
#10327342 - 05/12/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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So this is how the bucket of bulk is coming along:
 
Its kept at 84-88F all day, and there little spots of thick white mycelium starting to show up, anyone know how long to except tell pinning? (this is my first batch)
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