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How would someone disappear into thin air...
    #10326879 - 05/12/09 11:52 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Lets say some people are after you, how would someone disappear into thin air.You have no passport..

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10326983 - 05/12/09 12:17 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

If you have some cash you could just hop on a Greyhound and go to another city and live in a cheap hotel for a while, grow a beard, wear grungy clothes and look like a homeless person.  I don't think you need any ID to get on a bus.

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: grimblegrumble]
    #10327146 - 05/12/09 12:59 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

You do need ID to get on a greyhound.

The OP didn't give much info on what he's hiding from.  But, just leave town and don't tell anyone where you're going or that you're leaving.  It's as simple as that.

If you don't have much in the way of resources then think about volunteering for something that will pay room and board.  Or just hitchhike or take the bus to another town and check into the local homeless shelter.  Then find some easy work and make due until things cool off.

Usually it's just easier to start carying weapons and beat the living piss out of whoever's after you.  Pepper spray and some brass knuckles are usually quite effective.


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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: fastfred]
    #10327244 - 05/12/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

You need an ID to get on Greyhound now?  That is so fucked!

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: grimblegrumble]
    #10328009 - 05/12/09 03:49 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Well, you need an ID to get your ticket.  You don't actually have to show it to get on the bus I don't think.

The one way around it might be to go to a bus stop that doesn't have a ticket office.  I've been told that the driver will take you to the next stop with a ticket office so that you can get a ticket.  YMMV there.

I've also seen people sneak on the bus when it's stopped, like when the driver is in the bathroom.  However they are pretty good about taking a count after every stop nowdays.

I heard a story last time I rode the bus about some guy with no legs and just stubs for arms.  He rode a long way for free, but eventually they got some asshole driver that kicked him off and threatened to call the cops.

One time I was on the bus and a guy got on.  He had a ticket, but didn't show it to the driver because he was in the pisser.  The driver took a count and found the dude and hollered and screamed at him for like 5 minutes even though he had a valid ticket.  Finally I told the driver to shut up and get back to driving before we were late.  What an ass.


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The difference between the substances doesn't matter. This is a war on consciousness, on our right to the very essence of what we are. With no control over that, we have no need to speak of freedom or a free society. -fireseed

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I find the whole "my drug should be legal but yours should be illegal" mindset disgusting and hypocritical. It's what George Bush and company do when they drink a cocktail and debate the best way to imprison marijuana users. -Diploid

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: fastfred]
    #10342517 - 05/15/09 08:38 AM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Move to Iowa, cost of living is cheap, plenty of small towns that you can live/work in and never have contact with the outside world.

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: fltdriver82]
    #10344195 - 05/15/09 03:23 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

You could buy someone's ID or the ID of a dead person and assume their identity. It is a crime though. And you never know if there's a warrant out for that ID.

What about other bus lines or trains, do you need to show an id for that? There is always ride sharing.


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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: fltdriver82]
    #10344742 - 05/15/09 05:04 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

ain't it the truth.

there are so many mexican gang members here that are on the run. there's actually a large mexican community from where I am and the traffickers and hustlers just blend right in.

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: fastfred]
    #10345300 - 05/15/09 06:47 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

fastfred said:
Usually it's just easier to start carying weapons and beat the living piss out of whoever's after you.  Pepper spray and some brass knuckles are usually quite effective.
-FF




:rofl2:

Spontaneous Combustion is always a possibility, although the air may not be left so thin.

Any 1: Can you safely give more details, or is this a hypothetical hypothetical question? How to disappear depends much on where you one would be trying to disappear from and also where they are trying to disappear...well...to, I guess.




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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: numonkei]
    #10363464 - 05/19/09 09:08 AM (15 years, 3 days ago)

First, it is not that hard to disappear and too may people spend too much time thinking about it. I used to work skip tracing for a bail bondsman so I can tell you how to disappear.

#1) pull all your money as cash!
#2) git rid of anything that can ID you, ID cards, drivers license, credit cards, etc.
#3) walk away! Do not contact anyone you know, no friends, no family, NO ONE! Let everyone wonder what happened to you. That is how they find you, they (who ever they are) will lie to you friends and family to find you so no one can know where you are.
#4) Hitchhike, jump a train, bum a flight at the local municipal air port (Lots of pilots will let you tag along for some one to talk to on the flight), etc.
#5) When you get to where you are going you can hit the homeless shelter, or find a vacant house or building to crash in.
#6) Most people dont know this but you can go to the local catholic church and tell the priest that you are on the run from some bad people because you used to do things you are not proud of. You need a place to stay, to think about how you can make it right and you need some one you can talk to. Tell the priest that you remembered that a catholic friend once told you that no matter how bad it was or how much trouble you were in, that you could always go to a catholic church and request sanctuary. The priest will provide you with food, shelter, and advice 99% of the time. Oh and the police can not forcibly remove you from a granted sanctuary by the church.
If you skip #6 you can always hang out where the day labors are and get cash jobs to gain some money and keep your self going.

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: Cyber]
    #10366440 - 05/19/09 08:26 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

pick up SAS survial book. good knife army surplus gear live in the mt. grow whatever you can to sell moonshine weed ect. keep your cash in a coffie can only use it when you need supplies. But you would get cabin fever and go nuts with the lack of human contact after a few years like that.then rape the first river rapid group that comes by. pig pig pig. i hear banjos!!


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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: deadmeat986]
    #10393309 - 05/24/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

So much info, I can use.... :cool:


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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: Brainiac]
    #10394449 - 05/25/09 02:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You can also pay to get some fake documents and start a new life. The Nazi's left Germany after WWII and thousands are living their lives like nothing happened in South America. It will cost ya and you need a connection but its a possibility.

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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: Shadowfoxhound]
    #10408900 - 05/27/09 05:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

If it's just other ordinary people you want to avoid, you can move to another state or just another city, living normally but disconnected from previous contacts. Try picking a calm and quite place where less people pass by. Do not frequent "niche" locations you are known to like such as that "one" cybergoth disco in a thousand mile radius, or a concert of some obscure band you are known to be a fanatic lover of.

People would have to be pretty dedicated to come looking for you there though, still, it doesn't take long to check the license plates on cars parked nearby for instance ...

The next tier are people that can actually track you down: bail bondsmen, private investigators, lawyers ... anybody that can access your credit rating, tax records and employment history basically.
Living out of your car working for cash works, as long as you don't get any legal trouble (parking tickets!). Maybe you could get a job at an organic farm with room and board, and switch location right after your tax returns are filed.

Ordinary law enforcement is tougher, but how well they look can vary greatly. They'll generally try to get information from any known contacts, and put out a notice (city, county state ...) If you're running from a high profile case (don't), your information may appear in the media in hopes of tracking you down through witnesses. You would have to alter your appearance, you'd have to switch your vehicle to something not registered to you (license plates are checked, owner is wanted, you get pegged)

Normal cops do not generally permanently monitor bank account activity and those matters, but they can get a court order that forces your bank to alert them of any activity,fleeing the state is a serious step that may get  you out of non-federal charges

Again: it is usually not worth evading justice, "if you can't do the time" and all that potpourri ...

Next up are federal agencies, and international police forces.
I will not advice you on evading these.

For some pretty useful information on surviving with little:
http://guide2homelessness.blogspot.com/

google: homelessness survival, car living

Also for fun and some info, read this blog:
http://www.hobostripper.com/


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Re: How would someone disappear into thin air... [Re: Plastered marble]
    #10408909 - 05/27/09 05:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

huff helium :hehehe:


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