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OfflineTheta
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Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now?
    #1031937 - 11/07/02 11:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Here's the deal. I'm eager to perform my first cultivation experiment. (I know, I know, so is everyone else their first time.) My schedule looks kind of shady for the next couple months. I know my best bet is to wait until my schedule evens out, but at the same time if I could carry out a small scale trial run that would yield fruit, it'd be worth the effort.

Unless I can find a way to transport cakes, incubator, and fruiting chamber without harming anything, this is how my schedule is going to be. If I inoculate some cakes with a spore syringe today, I will be able to watch over them for days 1-16. I will then have to leave them alone for 9 days (days17-25). I will be able to return for days 26-37. After 37 days from inoculation, I'd have to leave everything alone for about a month.

Is the initial 37 days (with the 9 day absence) long enough to yield fruit? (I know times vary widely, I'm looking for averages.) Should I just suck it up and wait? Could I transport my cultivation setup without compromising the effort?

Thanks for your advise!


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1031951 - 11/07/02 11:40 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Is the reason for you leaving have to do with school break in anyway? I ask this is because i have the same problem of whether or not to start, drop me and email if this is the case cause i'm trying to develope a tek for my situation and if its the same as your we could help each other out.


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1031975 - 11/07/02 11:48 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

There are so many variables involved that it is impossible to predict, but I would say yes. Under optimum incubation and fruiting conditions you could pull at least one flush from cakes in 37 days.


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: trippin247]
    #1031977 - 11/07/02 11:49 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think a tek needs to be developed. PF tek has been established to work quite well. In ideal temperatures with fresh spores. You can finish a PF jar in 7-10 days. Then birth it into terrarium, and will start seeing fruit in another 5-10 days. Flush will probably take about 3-7 days to mature. SO if everything was completely ideal (first grow, it probably wont be) then you could potentially have fruit in 3 weeks (21 days) to about 27 days. Give or take. Again, this is under optimal conditions. I have rarely had a PF jar finish in a week, it has happened for me before, though.

My first run ran about 2 1/2 weeks for colonization of cakes, then when fruiting from cakes took about 8 days to start pinning and 4 days from pins to fruits. So that's about 30 days. I would say 37 days, you will be able to. I'm just not sure when you'll be in town and when you wont, because none of those numbers are exact, there are a lot of variables.


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1032008 - 11/07/02 12:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Not to be a kill joy or anything, but it was my experience the first couple of times do take you a little bit longer because you are always going to make mistakes untill you have done it a few times. The only way you really get this stuff down is to practice. And if you are trying this stuff for the first time, I garentee (SP) things will never work out like you read. At least not the first time, I tell you from my own trial and error and from my own frustrations that I have endured. But if you really have the ambition My guess is you can make anything happen, so maybe make a couple of jars just for shits and giggles. Remember to keep us all posted. Peace
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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Se77vN]
    #1032082 - 11/07/02 12:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think I'll try a couple cakes - trial run if nothing else.

I'm sure this has been asked before, but if I only use a bit out of a syringe, do I just flame the tip, re-cap, and store?

Also, what do you think would be the best strain to attempt this quick run - EQ, GT, or PES Hawaiian?


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Raadt]
    #1032087 - 11/07/02 12:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I wanted to develope a tek because I am growing shrooms and I wanted to make a tek that would be more adaptive to my conditions and I thought that he was trying to do the same thing that I was so i figured we could compare notes kind of. sorry for the confusion


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: trippin247]
    #1032098 - 11/07/02 12:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

I wanted to develope a tek because I am growing shrooms and I wanted to make a tek that would be more adaptive to my conditions and I thought that he was trying to do the same thing that I was so i figured we could compare notes kind of. sorry for the confusion



Nothing wrong with this idea in my opinion. It'd be nice to take ful advantage of the cakes, making sure I could watch over them for additional flushes.

trippin247 I shot you a PM. Did you get it? PM me back.


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1032112 - 11/07/02 12:48 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

have you considered packing them up and taking them along for the ride?

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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Curious_George]
    #1032122 - 11/07/02 12:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

have you considered packing them up and taking them along for the ride?



Read my post. See it, that boldface print?

I'm looking into it. An advise on methods??


Edited by Theta (11/07/02 12:53 PM)


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1032234 - 11/07/02 01:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Personally I'd be too paranoid to carry around my setup, just in case someone saw it but here's how I'd do it: Make a terrarrium out of a rubbermaid. Make a lid for it so that the original lid is still intact and usable. When you leave you can fill this box with clothes or whatever. So, the day you are packing to leave, you've already harvested a couple of flushes or one or none from your cakes. You pick all the tiny little pins and everything from them and then you stick them back into the jars you incubated them in. Put them in the convenient little box the jars came in, stuff some socks in there so that they don't clink around against eachother. Put the box of jars in layered with your clothes or whatever in the rubbermaid/terrarrium. When you get to a safe place, you could just leave the cakes in the jars with a little indirect light and then when they start to pin again rebirth them into the rubbermaid and give it some spraying. The whole operation could be really stealth, but I wouldn't do it if I was taking a bus/plane or any means of transportation that would involve other people coming close to my gear. Don't be so keen about growing mushies that you take a stupid risk.


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1032261 - 11/07/02 01:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

you can always use the PF hippie tek. it's practically effortless.


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1032307 - 11/07/02 01:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Theta and I were talking about storing them in the frigde and I was just wondering if the cakes would have anyproblems storing them there, is it best to furit them right away or will they be just as good if they were in the fridge and then fruiting them?


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: trippin247]
    #1033433 - 11/07/02 07:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hippie tek's a thought.

What about storing colonized cake jars in the fridge? I know it's much better not attempt to store it, but have any of you done this with success?


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Re: Please Help! 37 days to fruit? Start now? [Re: Theta]
    #1033449 - 11/07/02 08:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Definately possible... Average time from innoculation to first fruit is around 25 days for the average cultivator... probably around 30 days for newbie.


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