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OfflinePhluck
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Making stupid statements.
    #1030325 - 11/07/02 12:04 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, both the left and the right here are totally guilty of this.

What you have to realize first, is that people on both sides believe strongly that their opinions are correct. Not all leftists are secretly trying to take away your rights for their own personal gain, and not everyone on the right are a bunch of old fashined racists in the pocket of big business.

If you want your opinion to count for anything, you need to be able to understand what the other side believes in, and what drives them.

Saying that Bush supporters only want to attack Iraq out of deep rooted racism is obviously ignoring the facts, and so is calling the anti-war folks "terrorist sympathizers". If you can't get a better grasp of what the other side believes in, then your opinion probably hasn't been thought through very well. In order for your ideas to hold any weight, they need to be able to stand up to a lot of scrutiny. Analyze the opposing ideas with an open mind, read some literature of theirs, (and not the absolutely ridiculous fanatic stuff), and if you still disagree with it, then fine. Most of what you read you'll probably disagree with, but without a doubt you'll understand how the other side thinks, and you'll also realize that maybe (read: definately) you're getting a lot of opposing facts from your own sources, and your side can't possibly be getting it right all the time. Your side, as a matter of fact, is feeding you a lot of bullshit. Doesn't matter which side it is, you're definately getting a lot of incorrect information.

So, saying things like "Bush is just as bad as Hitler", or "Stalin is the hero of all liberals" is just stupid. You're just making yourself look like an idiot.

Another note: sometimes people will respond to a post with something along the lines of "This is so stupid, I don't even need to respond."

Well, if that's the case, then you really shouldn't have responded. It seems to me that this is really just an excuse for "I really don't have a good response to this, but it really gets under my skin so I'll just call it stupid and completely dismiss it." If it really is bad, then explain what's wrong with it. Unless, of course, it really is totally ridiculous, like "My psychic told me that Bush really IS Hitler reincarnated!". Lord knows you get a lot of wackos on this site who believe they've tapped into an alternate universe or some shit.


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Phluck]
    #1030370 - 11/07/02 12:18 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

To me the terror issue is as a non-issue. At least not a real big deal. The economy is also not a big issue to me. I'll get by, I always have before.


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Phluck]
    #1031549 - 11/07/02 08:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

****"Stalin is the hero of all liberals" is just stupid. ****

hit a nerve eh?



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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1031625 - 11/07/02 08:42 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What do you consider to be the current real big deals the rail gun?


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1031732 - 11/07/02 09:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

"hit a nerve eh?"

Meh, I just thought it was a pretty ignorant thing to say. Even a hardcore communist will tell you Stalin was one bad dude.


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1031736 - 11/07/02 09:56 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not just talking about any specific issue, people do this for all topics. The examples that came to mind just happen to be about terror.


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Phluck]
    #1031865 - 11/07/02 11:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

how about lenin?


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1033085 - 11/07/02 05:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, lots of communists will like Lenin. But you do know that liberal and communist don't have the same meaning at all, right?

For instance, libertarians are liberals.


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1033417 - 11/07/02 07:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Lenin? What the hell did Lenin do that was so bad. He overthrew a horrible regime that had only abolished SERFDOM a few years before. STALIN fucked things up after that. DOnt fuck with me on this, I've taken a lot of Russian history. Lenin was one of the best revolutionaries to ever live. HE was the only person who had the balls to try something new in a place where the people had been fucked over for centuries. Invertigo, your ignorance of history is scary, especially when you pair that with your comments on this board. Sometimes I really think you arent serious, but you are.


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Phluck]
    #1035150 - 11/08/02 07:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

****But you do know that liberal and communist don't have the same meaning at all, right?*****

different side of the same coin...they're statists and collectivists. Kind of like putting your penis on a bright red poker as opposed to one that's dull red..it still sucks......ouch


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1035152 - 11/08/02 07:21 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

****Lenin? What the hell did Lenin do that was so bad. He overthrew a horrible regime that had only abolished SERFDOM a few years before. ****

I rest my case.......


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1035483 - 11/08/02 10:34 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Why dont you try making your case for a change :grin: 


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: GazzBut]
    #1035519 - 11/08/02 10:50 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I did nov 5th...i didn't vote for any libbies :grin:


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1035777 - 11/08/02 12:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Come on asshole! What about Lenin? That's not the first time you have labeled him! What made him so horrible?


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1035854 - 11/08/02 01:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

asshole? you silly libbies are way too emotional..... :grin:

it's ok to be like him... :wink:


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1036180 - 11/08/02 02:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

"I did nov 5th...i didn't vote for any libbies "

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"Another note: sometimes people will respond to a post with something along the lines of "This is so stupid, I don't even need to respond."

Well, if that's the case, then you really shouldn't have responded. It seems to me that this is really just an excuse for "I really don't have a good response to this, but it really gets under my skin so I'll just call it stupid and completely dismiss it." If it really is bad, then explain what's wrong with it. Unless, of course, it really is totally ridiculous, like "My psychic told me that Bush really IS Hitler reincarnated!". Lord knows you get a lot of wackos on this site who believe they've tapped into an alternate universe or some shit. "


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Phluck]
    #1036581 - 11/08/02 04:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

****"This is so stupid, I don't even need to respond."****

Don't be so self rightious, i've never said this.....but who has..hmmmm?

did you mean to respond to me? if so i'm confused..if not...my bad


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1036651 - 11/08/02 04:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

are all liberals statists? what about anarchists? are they liberals?


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #1037189 - 11/08/02 07:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

anarchist are not statists....they're more like 100% anti-statists...if that made sense.

They believe in absolutly NO government


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Re: Making stupid statements. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1038797 - 11/09/02 02:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Voting for someone isn't stating your case. It's stating your opinion.

For instance, stating your opinion would be:

"I would like to eat a sandwich."

While stating your case would be:

"I would like to eat a sandwich because I am hungry."


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