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OfflineWornTraveler
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How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house?
    #10299527 - 05/06/09 09:11 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

I've been thinking about really amping up my setup and going balls to the walls with my grow ops. I'm just tired of paying for drugs, and frankly I'm ready to start getting everything I want for free. I've already considered a mushroom grow under my bed and some salvia growing in my backyard, I was thinking about adding a few pot plants in the closet and some potted opium to the deal. Not sure about mimosa but if it can grow in Florida I'd go for that as well, and cactus cuttings seem easy enough to work with.

You guys think it's too much?


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299546 - 05/06/09 09:15 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Uhhhhhm...what kind of question is this :shrug:. How about grow as many drugs in your house as you are comfortable growing without getting caught? That is kindof a stupid question to ask on an internet forum..."how many drugs can i grow in my house guys?"

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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299559 - 05/06/09 09:18 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

the answer is simple: one pot plant in the US is enough to effectively ruin your life if you get the wrong judge, so yes.

But do you associate with people that could eventually get themselves in trouble and rat you out in order to save their own skin? if no, then you're "probably" safe.

Keep in mind your friends don't have to get into drug trouble to use you as a bargaining chip, they could be victims of association in a burglary felony or alleged rape by an angry ex girlfriend, etc, and suddenly see their own life being washed down the drain and sink you instead. Anything is possible, so live accordingly.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: shroomiin]
    #10299560 - 05/06/09 09:18 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Looking for opinions is all, if you don't have anything to say one way or another find another thread to troll. Besides, I don't know much about the laws on all this shit, I was hoping someone might be able to provide me with a list of the legal ramifications regarding possession of multiple psychoactive plants in a single domicile. For instance, I know San Pedro and Salvia and even Opium (if the pods aren't scored) are LEGAL to grow, but if they find pot plants in the house, are they going to automatically (and correctly) assume the rest are for drug production and crack my ass for all of it?


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299562 - 05/06/09 09:19 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

This is probably better suited for the security forums since this what your question pertains to, no?

Personally, I would be real careful who you tell and maybe read up on some basic security culture. All it takes is one bad argument, or maybe some really stupid misunderstanding, and someone vengeful can easily send an anonymous tip in. I wouldn't be posting online about it either, especially with my location. Maybe I am just paranoid, but even something simple as internet search history has been used in court cases before. ^_^


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
    #10299574 - 05/06/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

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the answer is simple: one pot plant in the US is enough to effectively ruin your life if you get the wrong judge, so yes.

But do you associate with people that could eventually get themselves in trouble and rat you out in order to save their own skin? if no, then you're "probably" safe.

Keep in mind your friends don't have to get into drug trouble to use you as a bargaining chip, they could be victims of association in a burglary felony or alleged rape by an angry ex girlfriend, etc, and suddenly see their own life being washed down the drain and sink you instead. Anything is possible, so live accordingly.




Yeah, I thought pretty hard about that one. My room mates are really straight though, we've been through some real shit together and they've had my ass covered just as much as I've covered theirs. Also, they're both incredibly paranoid, which I see as a good foil to my wilder side. As soon as I suggest something even slightly stupid, they go all sketch on me and tell me all the things that can go wrong, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe on that end.

What are the ramifications for getting caught with a single pot plant? Or mushroom jar for that matter?


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: cuddlebear]
    #10299583 - 05/06/09 09:22 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Do you really think cops search the shroomery for info CB? I'm sure they snoop around, but I mean, plenty of people have grow logs, and we *all* talk about our grows and illegal activity. Should I be worried?


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299661 - 05/06/09 09:33 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

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For instance, I know San Pedro and Salvia and even Opium (if the pods aren't scored) are LEGAL to grow,



No. As of July 2008 Salvia divinorum and Salvinorin A was classified as Schedule I in Florida, making it a felony to even possess.

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but if they find pot plants in the house, are they going to automatically (and correctly) assume the rest are for drug production and crack my ass for all of it?



The DA will try to insinuate every possibility, they do it all the time. Might be a good idea to read about what your local DA is up to. It's probably not good.

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Do you really think cops search the shroomery for info CB?




No, but it's a fact even something as simple as search terms people have entered into google has been used against in court cases. I do think it's unlikely they would invest this much resources for someone just growing for themselves though, but who knows. It doesn't matter what I think really. Why would you even trust a random person you don't even know with something as serious as legal advice? I'd read up on my own if you are really concerned.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: cuddlebear]
    #10299671 - 05/06/09 09:34 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

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For instance, I know San Pedro and Salvia and even Opium (if the pods aren't scored) are LEGAL to grow,



No. As of July 2008 Salvia divinorum and Salvinorin A was classified as Schedule I in Florida, making it a felony to even possess.




I'm (pretty) sure the substance is illegal, but the plant itself is ornamental, totally legal to grow. It's once you clip the leaves and put them in little baggies and try to smoke them later that you get in trouble, I think.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299685 - 05/06/09 09:37 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Sorry, it's just not true. See the link I already posted.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299692 - 05/06/09 09:38 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

theres no laws until u get busted, grow em all bro!


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299698 - 05/06/09 09:39 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

You'll really get better answers over in teh Security forum. I think you should start a new thread or get a mod to move this one. It's an interesting question.

My gut feeling is that if there wasn't any pot, and the rest was outdoors and looked 'gardeny' you might just luck out. Even if salvia is illegal, I doubt many people would recognize it. I don't think I would.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? (moved) [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10299749 - 05/06/09 09:51 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: Doc_T]
    #10299754 - 05/06/09 09:53 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

you'll get better answers of show more interest in mycology rather than just wanting to get fucked up for free.

www.mushroomvideos.com

watch the pf tek videos

make up a batch of 6 ckes.

some shrooms to mess you up.

it will teach you the lifecycle of mushrooms and maybe you will take more interest and progress to other methods maybe other species


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10299885 - 05/06/09 10:22 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Dude, I bought the seeds in Walmart months after the ban went into effect lol. I'm pretty sure the plant is still legal.
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you'll get better answers of show more interest in mycology rather than just wanting to get fucked up for free.

www.mushroomvideos.com

watch the pf tek videos

make up a batch of 6 ckes.

some shrooms to mess you up.

it will teach you the lifecycle of mushrooms and maybe you will take more interest and progress to other methods maybe other species




Uh, I already know how to do that... thanks... that's not really what the thread is about.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10300000 - 05/06/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Just don't be stupid and take advantage of your roommates like that. They can get busted if you get busted, somehow, maybe...

You're just putting them at risk. Nobody wants police going through their house, so unless you make it absolutely clear to them, don't do it. It's just too disrespectful

But, I don't know your current situation.

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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10300103 - 05/06/09 11:14 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

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Dude, I bought the seeds in Walmart months after the ban went into effect lol. I'm pretty sure the plant is still legal.



Salvia divinorium rarely produces viable seeds. You probably bought Salvia officinalis, the common garden sage, not the psychoactive Salvia divinorium, which is definitely 100% illegal in Florida if you care to read the link I posted. Salvia is just a genus that contains hundreds of different plants.

I've actually heard someone else confuse the two. They smoked Salvia officinalis from a garden store and swore "salvia sucked." I guess the confusion is quite common:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/21/t/001046.html


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: cuddlebear]
    #10300133 - 05/06/09 11:20 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

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Dude, I bought the seeds in Walmart months after the ban went into effect lol. I'm pretty sure the plant is still legal.



Salvia divinorium rarely produces viable seeds. You probably bought Salvia officinalis, the common garden sage, not the psychoactive Salvia divinorium, which is definitely 100% illegal in Florida if you care to read the link I posted. Salvia is just a genus that contains hundreds of different plants.

I've actually heard someone else confuse the two. They smoked Salvia officinalis from a garden store and swore "salvia sucked." I guess the confusions is quite common:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/21/t/001046.html





LOL, really? Well on one hand I feel like a complete dumbass. On the other hand, now I don't have to go dig an illegal plant out of my front lawn lol, so I guess it evens out.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10300165 - 05/06/09 11:30 PM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Hehe, you don't have to dig it out. Sage is real good! http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/sauce/recipe-diy-sage-pesto-025302 MMmmm yummy with butternut squash

Anyways, I do think your original question about the riskiness in growing plants that are legal for illegal purposes is a good one and would be interested in what others have to say.


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Re: How Many Different Drugs is too much to grow in one house? [Re: cuddlebear]
    #10301056 - 05/07/09 06:28 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

I'm in a similar position to you worntraveller.  I don't currently live in a house, but I'm hoping to move into a house with about 7 or 8 of my close friends, and some of those close friends are quite pumped to be able to have our own place to grow whatever we want.  Furthermore, I foolishly told them that I was growing mushrooms in the past, dumb mistake on my part, but they already knew of my little hobby, so I feel like the fact that I'm gonna be moving in now is great because I don't have to do any explaining to them when they see strange objects laying around, and furthermore, they've actually expressed interest in helping, which I think will be fun.  As long as they're close to you and you know their lifestyles, and their lifestyles are somewhat close to yours, I think they can be trusted, especially if they're living in your house with you, I think that makes it even less likely that they would go to the police.

I think the answer to you question is however many you can keep under control.  If things start to smell, or you have pot plants growing in a very obvious place, you might want to take a look at your situation and keep things more on the DL.  Other than that though, I can't really think of any way you would get busted, unless you guys have ragers every weekend and get the cops called on you.

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